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Testimony of Michael Crichton before the US Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works 9/28/05
Michael Crichton ^ | 9/28/05 | Michael Crichton

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:17:16 AM PDT by ZGuy

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To: dollar_dog
That may be, but he's still a libtard in my book. I'm not going to go around singing his praises just yet.

If every famous person stuck to their specialty, instead of pretending that their expertise in their specialty also made them an expert on political issues, the world would be a better place.

When MC speaks out on the scientific method, he's worthy of a hearing. If he were to pontificate on, say, suburban sprawl....who cares?

He may be demented on political issues, but in his desire to keep politics of any kind out of science, he's spot on.

61 posted on 10/04/2005 10:05:12 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: discostu
certain scientific issues have become imbued with a huge emotional/ moral/ political weight that is clouding the process.

True, and as we remember - figures don't lie, but liars figure.

Scientific advocacy has become embedded in our political debate - do fetuses feel pain? Is being gay genetic or learned? These issues are addressed, manipulated and spun by those with other agendas then allowing for unbiased research.

As a result, organization with august names, and the appearance of knowledgable authority have moved in the direction of pushing a political agenda - the Journal of the American Medical Association's unsupported and grossly biased attack on gun ownership, and others - the Union of Concerned Scientists, and even the American Pediatric Association have discarded reasoned discourse with the promotion of a clear agenda based on their pet causes.

Moral rules - those difficult personal choices and sacrifices we make - can be rationalized away in a heartbeat by those with mastery of sophistry, and "proven" by their weak minions looking for a moment of recognition and fame. Do not doubt the weakness and powerful vanity of those that consider themselves high priests of the god of knowledge. Like magicians and alchemists of the past, it is a small and easy step from attempting honest guidance to slipping into self-serving charlatanism. The answer is, instead, total honesty. Intellectual, ethical and moral honesty, for anything created with less will be in error.

62 posted on 10/04/2005 10:20:25 AM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: discostu
Chrichton is an all around sharp guy, he was one of the first to predict the Japanese "purchase" of America was going to fail

Then I was the second. Puts me in good company.

63 posted on 10/04/2005 10:30:16 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: 25 years Navy

A high school student who is familiar with scientific methodology could make the same points that Crichton makes. And be accurate. Policy should not dictate research results. And that's what too often occurs. Check Crichton's webpage for two talks he gave that go into great detail. It's a breath of fresh air.


64 posted on 10/04/2005 10:37:49 AM PDT by Laur
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To: Hildy
An absolutely great read!!!
65 posted on 10/04/2005 10:38:34 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Fido969

What the problem is boiling down to these days is that science is expensive. The deeper we dig into the inner workings of the world around us the higher the equipment costs become, and somebody has to pay for that equipment. But nobody is going to sink millions of dollars into some kind of research without a vested interest, and researchers are getting a lot of pressure to respect their funder's vested interest. In theory that's what peer review and publishing raw data are supposed to take care of, eventually somebody is going to look at the raw data who isn't influenced by somebody's vested interest. But increasingly fear of that neutral 3rd party is causing scientists to avoid those things that make science useful.


66 posted on 10/04/2005 10:40:02 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
He may be demented on political issues, but in his desire to keep politics of any kind out of science, he's spot on.

So we shouldn't be fighting for Intelligent Design to be taught in schools? If we don't flex political muscle, 'science' will eradicate God, because faith does not fit into modern scientific thought.

67 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:59 AM PDT by dollar_dog
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To: ZGuy

"Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it."

All too common reply, best answered by "That's the basis of science.", "That's part of your job description.", "Must I FOIA you or can we do this like gentlemen"., etc.

If in Florida, "Because the Public Documents Acts says so."

Alas, who pays the Piper calls the tune. Due to limited, and often interlocking funding sources, most scientists are members of the "Great American Scientific Castrati Association."

They have been neutered to sing in the agency/academic institution chorus.

We pay taxes to support a scientific community where Agenda Uber Alles is as accepted as Deutschland Uber Alles was in the Third Reich.


68 posted on 10/04/2005 11:46:49 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: ZGuy
Thus, when adhered to, the scientific method can transcend politics.

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True. But scientists are human beings first, and subject to their emotions, just as we all are.

69 posted on 10/04/2005 11:51:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GladesGuru
the "Great American Scientific Castrati Association."

All scientists must go through the leftist liberal arts university system, where they will be exposed to such garbage as Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, and others whose sole purpose in life is to destroy the "traditional" American system.

As such, so many of these so-called scientists have a warped political bent which influences their research and conclusions.

70 posted on 10/04/2005 11:57:30 AM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: trisham

The advantage of both the scientific method and logic is that one can avoid the fate of an earlier member of the Royal Academy of Science.

He attempted to prove that manned flight was impossible until the strength to weight ration of materials was increased by an order of magnitude.

This was, in effect, an attempt to prove a negative - which logic says is an impossibility.

He neglected to send a copy to Dayton, Ohio, the bicycle mechanics never read his paper, and the rest is history.


71 posted on 10/04/2005 12:19:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Peach
Crichton delivered an important speech on this and related subjects in 2003. He's definitely well qualified to speak out on matters of science.
72 posted on 10/04/2005 12:56:02 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: ZGuy

"Global Warming" is a tough places to start – to much difference of opinion within the scientific community.

Instead lets begin our program of rooting out shoddy work and fuzzy thinking someplace were there is virtually total agreement within the disciplines involved, and investigate the adherents of "Creation Science" instead.


73 posted on 10/04/2005 1:06:32 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Did you know that the only "proof" of global warming is computer models?.....True. And not one of those models can recreate the known temprature history of, say, 1880 to today.
74 posted on 10/04/2005 1:10:34 PM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: bobsatwork
And not one of those models can recreate the known temprature history of, say, 1880 to today.

If they could, the programmers would turn their attention to the stock market instead.

The fact that they don't do so is proof in itself that their models are worthless.

75 posted on 10/04/2005 1:47:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Hildy

I read the speech - it was great, thank you. Obviously, they didn't get it in 1993 and they still don't get it. That's OK, we have talk radio and the internet.


76 posted on 10/04/2005 2:57:10 PM PDT by nuclady (( Nagin, Blanko and Landrieu: Wynkin', Blynkin', and Nod ))
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To: Youngblood
There is plenty of info out there on the net rebutting what Crichton has to say on these issues in his book.

Actually Crichton used scientific studies for the basis of the "facts" in his book and contains more footnotes and acknowledgements than any "novel" I've ever read. IOW, he's no Dan Brown (though I like both of their works).

State of Fear is excellent, particularly because he sources everything that is supposed to be factual to the scientific studies which have been done and published.
77 posted on 10/04/2005 4:13:46 PM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: WillamShakespeare

Catherine Coulter is also an author, writes crime mysterys


78 posted on 10/04/2005 4:46:04 PM PDT by chiya (If Hitler had ruled India, Ghandhi would have been a lampshade.)
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To: nuclady

Can you believe he said all these things over 12 years ago!?? He is so brilliant.


79 posted on 10/04/2005 5:10:10 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Paved Paradise
its quite good. about 500+ pages and i could not put it down... finished it in about two days. not the very best he's done but still very fast paced and interesting. while it is not his best, it could well be his most important work if it helps deflate the phoney global warming myth which is nothing more than a vehicle used by the left to gain more power over us poor sheep...

i've never believed the global warming crap but Crichton does a real service in providing a very coherent, consistent demolition of the global warming lie *AND PROVIDES REAL URL's WITH CHARTS AND GRAPHS*

80 posted on 10/04/2005 5:18:43 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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