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FAITH UNDER FIRE: Does website show Christian massacre? (Religion of Peace Alert)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 2, 2005 | Jeremy Reynalds

Posted on 10/02/2005 10:45:38 AM PDT by Jacob Kell

An American-hosted soft porn Internet site also doubles as a cyber home for radical Islamic video propaganda.

One approximately six-minute video housed on the Japanese site which we will not list because it so horrendous. Titled, "The Ambon Massacre," it starts with a picture of the ocean waves lazily lapping at dusk.

The scene soon shifts to video of a burning building and people being massacred. Then viewers see rows of dead bodies covered with newspaper, followed by scenes of burning, decimated houses.

The horrifying footage is followed by graphic video of burned, dead bodies with holes in their heads, as well as chopped off body parts. The dead include babies and the mutilated corpses of young people with gaping holes in their necks.

The video is apparently of the 2002 Ambon Massacre.

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We should have let the Laskar Jihad go over to Afghanistan so they could have gotten blown to hell.
1 posted on 10/02/2005 10:45:40 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

I've seen the video -it is very gory particularly with regard to children but it's not worse than some of the suicide bomber video. Oddly enough it's got a watermark for "Tampax Video"

I'm not gonna post the direct link in case somebody clicked on it accidently but if you want to see it here is a page that links to it - BTW, you need a vomit alert for some of the text on this first page but there are no pictures.

http://www.westernresistance.com/


2 posted on 10/02/2005 10:53:19 AM PDT by gondramB ( We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.)
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To: Jacob Kell

The Islamists, with China's support IMO, are making a big push in Indonesia. Indonesia has oil, coal, and other natural resources that China wants and they also are in a position to control the shipping lanes through that area which service China, India, and Japan.


3 posted on 10/02/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Jacob Kell
One approximately six-minute video housed on the Japanese site which we will not list because it so horrendous.

Video here: www.dos222.com/test/imgupload/img/200552712418face.wmv

4 posted on 10/02/2005 10:56:29 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Jacob Kell

I figure this could use a bump, particularly after the OU incident.


5 posted on 10/02/2005 11:17:30 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek Chick Parachutist Over Phorty)
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To: Between the Lines
Video here:

Stop spreading terrorist-produced propaganda. It only helps the enemy.

6 posted on 10/02/2005 12:32:30 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
Stop spreading terrorist-produced propaganda. It only helps the enemy.

Ya think? How many Freepers do you suppose will turn to the jihadists' side on the strength of that video?

7 posted on 10/02/2005 12:35:39 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
How many Freepers do you suppose will turn to the jihadists' side on the strength of that video?

None, but it is unwise and morally wrong to promote the distribution of it.

8 posted on 10/02/2005 12:42:29 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
Stop spreading terrorist-produced propaganda. It only helps the enemy.

Censorship helps the enemy. Do not be afraid of people seeing them for what they truly are.

You will notice I posted it as a web address and not a click-able link. I did this for two reasons, so that no one would accidental be subjected to this video, and because I did not want any hits to this website reflecting that they originated with FreeRepublic.

The truth may be too horrible to see, but unseen it is all too easily forgotten.

Never Forget!

9 posted on 10/02/2005 12:53:53 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Between the Lines
Censorship helps the enemy.

This is not about censorship. It's about doing the right thing.

The terrorists want their propaganda widely distributed. We should not assist them.

10 posted on 10/02/2005 1:11:11 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
None, but it is unwise and morally wrong to promote the distribution of it.

Why, exactly? How does doing so harm the cause of freedom and advance the cause of the jihadists?

11 posted on 10/02/2005 2:27:57 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
How does doing so harm the cause of freedom and advance the cause of the jihadists?

Among several other evil purposes, the enemy distributes their propaganda as a recruiting tool. This forum should not be a vehicle for promoting videos that are designed to encourage more terrorism.

The WND article was sufficient for informational purposes - and the author acted responsibly by not publicizing a link to it.

12 posted on 10/02/2005 2:53:54 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
Among several other evil purposes, the enemy distributes their propaganda as a recruiting tool.

So, again I ask you: How many Freepers do you think they're gonna recruit?

I get the feeling we could have this discussion round and round forever...

13 posted on 10/02/2005 6:01:46 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
How many Freepers do you think they're gonna recruit?

Our enemies read this forum too.

It's easy to refrain from spreading enemy propaganda - just use a little self-discipline.

14 posted on 10/02/2005 6:45:40 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
Stop spreading terrorist-produced propaganda. It only helps the enemy.

If a freeper sees the vid, will it be more likely to

A) create sympathy for the terrorists who committed the atrocity, or

B) create a burning resolve to exterminate such animals, wherever in the world they might be?

I'm betting B.
15 posted on 10/02/2005 6:55:16 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Jacob Kell
"The Ambon Massacre,"

A quick Google search turns up multiple massacres in Ambon: Dutch massacred English in 1623, Japanese murdered allied POW's in 1942, and Islamists hacked up Christians in 1999.

I guess that it is not a very popular vacation spot.

16 posted on 10/02/2005 7:01:52 PM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: SauronOfMordor
We've heard that bogus argument before. It's a pathetic attempt to rationalize watching terrorist propaganda videos for entertainment purposes.

A normal person doesn't need to consume terrorist propaganda to know which side they're on.

17 posted on 10/02/2005 7:45:58 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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