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Misinformation about Alaska abounds
Voice of the Anchorage Times ^ | 10-01-05 | By Lew M. Williams Jr.

Posted on 10/01/2005 9:59:21 PM PDT by akdonn

Alaska can help finance the recovery from recent hurricanes. It also can secure an energy supply and generate future revenue, thus avoiding tax increases.

But first, Americans have to get the facts straight about Alaska. The misinformation is atrocious. For example, Steve Doocy of Fox and Friends reported Tuesday that the 2005 highway legislation appropriated $223 million for a bridge (at Ketchikan) to serve 50 people, or about $4.5 million per person. That is ridiculous and exhibits the sloppy reporting costing major media their viewers and readers.

The bridge would replace an expensive and inadequate shuttle ferry to a regional airport used by civilian and military aircraft. Ketchikan lies at the south end of the 500-mile-long Alaska Panhandle. The only roads into the Panhandle are at the extreme north end. Ketchikan's closest access to the continental highway system entails a six-hour ferry ride to Prince Rupert, British Columbia, plus a two-day drive to the nearest state.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; anwr; bridgetonowhere; hurricanerelief; pork; welfareicequeens
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To: skeptoid
A cursory examination of demographic distribution of federal disbursements shows that per capita, Alaska is the leader in Government largess

Do any of the other states have less than 1% owned by individuals and the majority of the State's land held by the Federal Government? If you want Alaska to stand on its own, maybe it should be allowed to develop its resouces and own its land.

41 posted on 10/02/2005 9:23:15 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: skeptoid
And did you know the population is shrinking on an annual basis for the last several years?

Do you have a source for this claim? The US census data shows continued growth.

42 posted on 10/02/2005 9:29:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mrs Mark
If they really gave a damn about the environment they would of put in a navigational system to of prevented the Valdez accident.

The National Transportation Safety Board investigated the accident and determined that the probable causes of the grounding were:

The failure of the third mate to properly maneuver the vessel, possibly due to fatigue and excessive workload;

The failure of the master to provide a proper navigation watch, possibly due to impairment from alcohol;

The failure of Exxon Shipping Company to supervise the master and provide a rested and sufficient crew for the Exxon Valdez;

The failure of the U.S. Coast Guard to provide an effective vessel traffic system

The lack of effective pilot and escort services.

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The US Federal Government provides vessel traffic systems in coastal areas of navigable waterways.

43 posted on 10/02/2005 9:33:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
The US Federal Government provides vessel traffic systems in coastal areas of navigable waterways.

Thanks you made my point. If the State was so concerned about the environment, they would of used the resources at hand to make sure the system was up to snuff, even if they had to pay for it themselves.

I am sure if they invested the seed money the Feds would of came through with what it took, it's the old squeaky wheel gets the grease thing.

The people of Alaska partied with oil royalty money, and deserve scorn for their actions.

44 posted on 10/02/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: akdonn

What a load of BS. If that bridge is so important for Alaska, let Alaska use local funds to pay for it. If the state can afford to write checks to their residents each year, they can afford to pay for their own bridge.

Alaska has been The Fleece State for years when it comes to pork. Not really any different than when someone buys beer with a welfare check and then climbs into their Cadillac.


45 posted on 10/02/2005 12:16:28 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: thackney
Do any of the other states have less than 1% owned by individuals and the majority of the State's land held by the Federal Government? If you want Alaska to stand on its own, maybe it should be allowed to develop its resouces and own its land.

I 100% agree with this statement.

46 posted on 10/02/2005 12:39:51 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: thackney
The pop. of Alaska is increasing. But the pop. of Ketchikan has shrunk considerably since the pulp mill was forced to close several years ago.

The bridge in question would serve Ketchikan and Ketchikan is on an isolated island in southern Southeast AK.

47 posted on 10/02/2005 12:46:38 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: thackney
The pop. of Alaska is increasing. But the pop. of Ketchikan has shrunk considerably since the pulp mill was forced to close several years ago.

The bridge in question would serve Ketchikan and Ketchikan is on an isolated island in southern Southeast AK.

48 posted on 10/02/2005 12:47:15 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: akdonn

Alaska is a horrible place of glaciers and long winters and mosquitoes. Don't come. Stay away.


49 posted on 10/02/2005 12:48:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: skeptoid
Do any of the other states have less than 1% owned by individuals and the majority of the State's land held by the Federal Government? If you want Alaska to stand on its own, maybe it should be allowed to develop its resources and own its land.

Sure thing just pony up the cash to buy the land from the lower 48. Market value will do.

50 posted on 10/02/2005 1:09:42 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: RightWhale
Too late I was just there.

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Is the brige being built to allow cruise ships to pass?

51 posted on 10/02/2005 1:34:52 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Stupidty kills, but not fast enought)
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To: razorback-bert
That's Ketchikan Creek; where both the fish and the fishermen went upstream to spawn. Just out of frame to the right is Dolly's House (one of the independent "service industries" that flourished before statehood). As your photo shows, it'll have to be high tide to get the cruise ships up the creek.
52 posted on 10/02/2005 2:05:48 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: RightWhale
How could you forget these cute critters:

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53 posted on 10/02/2005 2:06:44 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Stupidty kills, but not fast enought)
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To: Mrs Mark
Thanks you made my point. If the State was so concerned about the environment, they would of used the resources at hand to make sure the system was up to snuff, even if they had to pay for it themselves.

Maybe you can provide a list of all the Federal Programs Michigan pays for from its funds.

54 posted on 10/02/2005 2:54:18 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mrs Mark
Sure thing just pony up the cash to buy the land from the lower 48. Market value will do.

Be happy to, right after Michigan and all the other states pay for their property to the federal funds and interest due.

55 posted on 10/02/2005 2:55:49 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: skeptoid

The PFD goes to anybody who has lived in the state for at least one year. Each year you have to apply and declare that you have been in state for a specific amount of time. I don't remember exactly how long because every time I go anyplace else I'm anxious to get back...so I have qualified every year since it started (1978).


56 posted on 10/02/2005 3:07:12 PM PDT by akdonn
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To: akdonn

Excellent post, akdonn! As an Alaskan, I have been dismayed at the lack of truth being reported in the MSM regarding this topic. Every time I read someone referring to the so-called "bridge to nowhere", I am infuriated. I realize it isn't "their" fault that they are so clueless, but that doesn't make ignorant comments any less irritating. :)


57 posted on 10/02/2005 3:16:39 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Mrs Mark

During the late 1970's I was on an assignment that required me to go out on Prince William Sound Pilot boats, climb the 40-ft ladder to the deck of the oil tankers, and ride them into port. Then I would ride back out on another one and return with the pilot. It is a very controlled process with plenty of very professional people involved. When Capt. Hazelwood hit Bly Reef in 1989 he was DRUNK, and his first mate incompetent. It is a marked reef on every chart and this was a huge embarassment for many who are very committed to Alaska's best interests.

What you seem to imply is that the State of Alaska has some kind of obligation to do more than the Federal Government is required to do regarding navigation on national waterways. That is rediculas at its face.

And yes, I have gotten a PFD every single year and I haven't paid state taxes since they were eliminated by the Alaska Legislature soon after the oil started flowing in 1977. I was a newspaper reporter for the Anchorage Daily News during construction of the pipeline and we have done more to accommodate environmentalist obstructionists than they deserve. I'm not running from anything either, sweetheart, but I can spot a misinformed busy body a mile away.


58 posted on 10/02/2005 3:19:51 PM PDT by akdonn
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To: konaice
The key point, This is Highway Trust Fund money, if not spent there, it does not buy anything else.

No, if not spent, it goes to pay for other highway projects benefiting more than 50 people.

59 posted on 10/02/2005 3:22:58 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: pepsionice
Considering the amount of pork that other states routinely get from congress...this is a minor league item for most states

Yes, but the other states have many more people and pay more taxes, so it's only fair that they get the bulk of pork. Whether or not its Alaska's turn to get a boondoggle, that's what this project clearly is.

60 posted on 10/02/2005 3:25:08 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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