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Grand jury foreman cites "stacks" of evidence against DeLay
Seattle Times ^ | 10-01-2005 | Christy Hoppe

Posted on 10/01/2005 9:19:40 AM PDT by KJC1

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To: calrighty
From the article I linked to above..."Gibson, 76, declined to identify his party affiliation, but he has voted in every Democratic primary since 1990, according to Travis County voting records.

He would not identify other grand jurors or say whether the 12-person grand jury was made up of more Democrats than Republicans. His name was made public because as foreman, he had to sign the indictment.

My goodnes---he is sure the chatty one, isn't he? "We had Republicans and Democrats and independents on that grand jury," Gibson said. "They were all professional people. I won't say where they work, but there were state employees and federal employees."

21 posted on 10/01/2005 9:45:01 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: KJC1
Good find KJ!

He added: "Mr. Earle has stacks and stacks of papers — evidence of telephone calls from Mr. DeLay and everybody."

Well, isn't that special! That is a stupid statement! I wonder if the stacks and stacks of papers are from a late night Kinkos run!

Are these calls recorded?

Also, who is everybody? All the people in TX?

Sounds like ex-sheriff Gibson might be a good ol'boy,(F.O.E.) friend of Earle's!

I think Gibson and Earle need to be "(Bill)Burketed".

If Freeper's can take down Rather, I am sure we can easily get the goods on Gibson! :)

22 posted on 10/01/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT by Repub4bush (------Mark Levin the next supreme court justice! :))
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To: KJC1

The statesman may have it wrong--the Chronicle says he's a retired insurance investigator. I've linked to it above...


23 posted on 10/01/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: KJC1
IMHO, it appears Earle has little solid evidence of a crime. If he did, Mr. DeLay's name would be more prominent in the indictment.

Looks like they have decided to try Mr. DeLay in the court of public opinion, seeking to inflict maximum damage with minimal evidence.

I trust Mr. DeLay and his lawyers will stand up to these specious attacks.

Mr. Gibson, you are breaking the oath you took. Sit down and STFU!

24 posted on 10/01/2005 9:47:19 AM PDT by upchuck (A fireman running up the stairs at the WTC as the towers began to collapse: HERO defined ~ Ben Stein)
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To: KJC1

To me, "retired deputy sheriff" suggests that he may have been a political operative. Some LEOs are honest; others are part of the political machine, as Ronnie Earle clearly is. I see it as, at the least, two people with connections to law enforcement scratching each other's backs. To me, it's a warning flag.

You don't have to be a western fan to understand that some sheriffs and their deputies are heroes but others are crooks. This guy is either senile or a crook, or maybe both.


25 posted on 10/01/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mamzelle
I read the article you linked, and both professions are correct. Great article, btw:

Gibson said he worked for 20 years as a Travis County deputy sheriff and 21 years as an investigator for the state insurance commissioner.

26 posted on 10/01/2005 9:50:41 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Mamzelle

Good article.


27 posted on 10/01/2005 9:52:11 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Mamzelle; KJC1
Gibson said he worked for 20 years as a Travis County deputy sheriff and 21 years as an investigator for the state insurance commissioner.

From the Houston link.

28 posted on 10/01/2005 9:55:46 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: KJC1
He added: "Mr. Earle has stacks and stacks of papers — evidence of telephone calls from Mr. DeLay and everybody."

Six previous grand juries didn't find enough evidence, yet this bozo thinks they have enough to convict DeLay. Wonder how many "See BS" type documents are included?

This is Travis county, the one blue cancer on the 2004 election map in Central Texas. It is also home to the likes of Dan Blather's daughter, Willie Nelson, Cactus Pryor, and hundreds other Yellow Dog DUmbocRATs stuck in the 1960s. I think ronnie the pos pig earle had some of these hippies on the GJ.

29 posted on 10/01/2005 9:56:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Note to the MSM - Don't stay stuck on STUPID!)
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To: upchuck

The thought just struck me that the Dems have really chosen a lousy target. Tom Delay has a backbone and isn't going to roll over on this and play nice. He's already come out swinging and flat out said there is no basis in truth for these allegations.

By the time this is over with, I expect the indictment to be tossed out of court, and Tom Delay to really let loose the dogs of political war. It should make for great political theater, and I trust the average American will see this for exactly what it is, a vendetta.

If I were running the DNC, I'd be horrified at this, because all this will eventually do is further undermine whatever credibility the DNC has with the average American.


30 posted on 10/01/2005 9:57:21 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: KJC1
Grand jurors were presented a load of evidence...

Got that right. It was a load of horsehockey that required creative methods to find one thing that could be twisted to include and 'indict' DeLay.

Little evil prosecutor man, Captain Ahab on a DNC mission, knew that getting this harpoon in would force DeLay to follow the procedure of stepping aside. Next come the media sharks who've smelled some blood and are ready to assist in the final 'kill'. All they have to do is paint a formulaic word picture: DeLay=Corrupt As Nixon and take it from there.

They won't succeed in the silly endeavor, however; the only thing they've achieved is once again putting their own putrid political corruption in the spotlight.

31 posted on 10/01/2005 10:00:29 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: KJC1

This guy could be indicted for squeeling.


32 posted on 10/01/2005 10:01:41 AM PDT by tiki
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To: mtbopfuyn
Gibson said he worked for 20 years as a Travis County deputy sheriff and 21 years as an investigator for the state insurance commissioner.

So not a sherrif, but a sherrif's deputy. And he got an appointment, or was hired, 21 years ago as an investigator for the insurance commisioner. Well, 21 years ago, Texas was solid democrat. So that tells me that he's had democrat connections for quite a while.

33 posted on 10/01/2005 10:02:40 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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Got that right. It was a load of horsehockey that required creative methods to find one thing that could be twisted to include and 'indict' DeLay.

I've posted this several times, but I think it's worth repeating. This case is like a one-way street. It's illegal to go the wrong way on a one-way street, but it's not illegal to go around the block to get where you want to go. They probably do have "stacks and stacks" of evidence that DeLay went around the block to get where he wanted to go. Guess what? IT'S LEGAL!

In Texas, corporations can't donate to individuals.

However, corporations can donate to PACs.
PACs can donate to the national committee.
The National Commitee can donate to individuals.

No corporation donated directly to the individuals (ie, drove the wrong way up the one way street.) The corporations donated to the PAC. The PAC donated to the RNC. The RNC donated to the individual races.

Earle doesn't have a case, only smoke and mirrors.

34 posted on 10/01/2005 10:08:55 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Okey, dokey. Let's do a little figuring here on Mr. Gibson. He's 76 now. He was retired from the state so probably took his retirement in 1991 at age 62. Worked for the state 21 years - 1970 to 1991. Took his LE retirement at 20 years of service - 1950 to 1970. Entered LE around age 20.

He's voted RAT since at least 1990 and TX was RAT territory back in his day. Seems he's had high aspirations, so why hasn't he run for Sheriff or has he? I'd like to know more about Mr. Chatty.

35 posted on 10/01/2005 10:10:27 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: KJC1

LOL Stacks of it huh then why did it take 6 grand juries and why did u indict on a charge a first year law student can beat


36 posted on 10/01/2005 10:17:13 AM PDT by skaterboy (Be good)
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To: KJC1

37 posted on 10/01/2005 10:18:49 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: KJC1

The stacks of evidence are probably New York Times articles, or Ronnie Earl screwed up on a Google search and instead of typing "delay" he typed "deny" and got a boatload of Clinton documents.


38 posted on 10/01/2005 10:21:09 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: hombre_sincero
Documentation is alway important. In fact, I know a fellow (me), who got done in by lots and lots of documentation of things that never happened. Unfortunately, I didn't have any documentation that they didn't, or documentation of what actually had.

So, a word of advice. Next time somebody says they hate you, take them at their word, and prepare your defense. Mainly, get those people out of your life, pronto.

39 posted on 10/01/2005 10:25:28 AM PDT by chesley
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; All
This was posted by Protect the Bill of Rights on another thread, but it is important info so I'm reposting it here:

Right to indictment: In Texas, the law dictates that before a defendant can be forced to face trial in a felony case, a grand jury must return an indictment for the specific offense charged. A grand jury consists of 12 citizens who sit for a period of three months and listen to allegations of criminal wrongdoing. Nine members must determine that probable cause exists to believe the defendant has committed the offense and vote a true bill before the indictment will issue. The defendant has no right to appear before the grand jury or offer evidence before that body, but the grand jury can allow such evidence if it desires.
Grand Jury proceedings are not open to the public, and grand jurors, witnesses and prosecutors who appear are required by law to respect grand jury secrecy.

http://www.co.travis.tx.us/district_courts/criminal_courts/167court/rights.asp

40 posted on 10/01/2005 10:30:22 AM PDT by KJC1
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