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Grand jury foreman cites "stacks" of evidence against DeLay
Seattle Times ^ | 10-01-2005 | Christy Hoppe

Posted on 10/01/2005 9:19:40 AM PDT by KJC1

Grand jury foreman cites "stacks" of evidence against DeLay

By Christy Hoppe

The Dallas Morning News

E-mail article Print view Search Most e-mailed Most read RSS AUSTIN, Texas — Grand jurors were presented a load of evidence, including testimony and phone records, that led them to believe Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, should be tried on a conspiracy charge, the leader of the Travis County grand jury that indicted the congressman said yesterday.

"It was not one of those sugar-coated deals that we handed to [District Attorney] Ronnie Earle," William Gibson said.

He added: "Mr. Earle has stacks and stacks of papers — evidence of telephone calls from Mr. DeLay and everybody."

DeLay has said Earle has no evidence to prove that he tried to subvert state election laws. His lawyers did not return calls seeking comments on Gibson's description of the grand-jury proceedings.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delay; gibson; grandjury; ronnieearle; texas; williamgibson
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For those interested in this blabbermouth Gibson (who isn't supposed to be discussing any of this) see this thread from yesterday too: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494602/posts
1 posted on 10/01/2005 9:19:41 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1
Grand jurors were presented a load of evidence

It would be interesting to know how this "evidence" escaped the eye of the previous grand jurys.

2 posted on 10/01/2005 9:23:30 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: KJC1

I guess we need to know more about Willian Gibson...


3 posted on 10/01/2005 9:23:59 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: KJC1

Whose going to indict the Grand Jury Forman? The @hole shouldn't be talking..I thought.


4 posted on 10/01/2005 9:24:31 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: KJC1

Hmm. What are the penalties for breaking Grand Jury secrecy? Who has the power to bring charges? Ronnie Earle, I suppose. Anyone else?

"Stacks of evidence" are easy enough to bring forward. Anyone could bring in boxes of old phone bills, telephone books, etc. But is any of this "evidence" sufficient to meet the usual standards for bringing charges, i.e., sufficient to convict?


5 posted on 10/01/2005 9:24:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"Mr. Earle has stacks and stacks of papers"

I can get stacks and stacks of papers right off my desk too!

So what?


6 posted on 10/01/2005 9:25:59 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.spadata.com)
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To: KJC1
Grand jury foreman cites "stacks" of evidence against DeLay

I wonder which stacks they were reviewing -- the twenties or the C-notes?

7 posted on 10/01/2005 9:26:23 AM PDT by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: MosesKnows

Yes, weren't there either 5 or 6 previous grand juries who rejected the indictment?


8 posted on 10/01/2005 9:30:31 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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The things everyone should keep in mind are:

1. The grand jury only gets presented one side of the case, the prosecutor's side.

2. The grand jurors are ordered by the judge to maintain secrecy, so the judge should hold Gibson accountable for disobeying his orders/instructions.


9 posted on 10/01/2005 9:31:43 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Cicero

It really is amazing how quickly this is turning around on the Dems -- even in the MSM -- as Ronnie Earle morphs into Bill Burkett. When will the Dems realize it's just not a smart idea to put political stock in disgruntled, unbalanced Texans with obvious axes to grind?


10 posted on 10/01/2005 9:32:07 AM PDT by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: KJC1

Forget the law.. turn the GJ into a total Texas Circus


11 posted on 10/01/2005 9:34:05 AM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: KJC1

It's starting to become obvious that Earle and this bozo, Gibson know they don't have a snowball's chance in hell with getting a conviction for their masters down at the DNC. They are playing this up in the Liberal "media" hoping to fatally wound Delay before they get their goatsmellin' asses thrown out of court.


12 posted on 10/01/2005 9:34:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: KJC1

Gibson is a retired sheriff's deputy, accding to the Statesman. Seems like he'd know better than to run his mouth about a grand jury proceeding. He's 76.


13 posted on 10/01/2005 9:35:54 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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What escapes me is where are Delays attorney's. They should bring charges against the Grand Jury foreman with contempt. The Judge is probably corrupt also, but at least it would show a fight will be on its way.
14 posted on 10/01/2005 9:38:01 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Mamzelle
Gibson is a retired sheriff's deputy, accding to the Statesman. Seems like he'd know better than to run his mouth about a grand jury proceeding. He's 76.

I read that too, and I find it astounding that a retired law enforcement officer would play so fast and loose with judge's direct orders.

15 posted on 10/01/2005 9:39:13 AM PDT by KJC1
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"When will the Dems realize it's just not a smart idea to put political stock in disgruntled, unbalanced Texans with obvious axes to grind?"

Oh, about the same time they realize Howard Dean is a psychopath.


16 posted on 10/01/2005 9:39:43 AM PDT by calrighty (`Nobody)
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To: KJC1
Grand jurors were presented a load of evidence

A load of BULL is more like it. Either those grand jurors are dumb, or they're bought and paid for already.
17 posted on 10/01/2005 9:41:11 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Logical me
OK, now the Yooston Chronicle says Gibson is a retired state insurance investigator? Insurance investigators are often well-connected with trial lawyers... Here's a good article...someone might like to post it .... Delay says he got no invite from the grand jury, grand jury says they wanted to hear from Delay...
18 posted on 10/01/2005 9:41:23 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: calrighty

Good point! :-)


19 posted on 10/01/2005 9:42:50 AM PDT by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: KJC1

You shouldn't be surprised...this is Austin, and this guy running his mouth is almost certainly an old line yellow dog democrat.

I'm going to laugh my @ss off when this thing is tossed out.


20 posted on 10/01/2005 9:43:09 AM PDT by DesScorp
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