Posted on 09/26/2005 5:34:31 PM PDT by mwfsu84
My major complaints with the GOP are Bush's spending, and the stonewalling RINOs in Congress. And yet, what is the alternative? To vote Democrat? Or to not vote at all - which is just as helpful to Dems.
Every time I think how disappointed I am with Bush, I try to remember how much worse it could be with a legitmate Bush-hater.
The Democrats won't cut spending. They'll raise taxes. We'll see national health care. A Democratic President won't nominate moderate SCOTUS justices - unless you consider Ruth Bader Ginsberg a moderate. We'll cow tow to the UN, probably pull out of Iraq, establish relations with Cuba and Hugo Chavez. They'll be no legitimate challenge to the ban on partial birth abortion. This fall, an upcoming SCOTUS case will be whether a minor has a right to have an abortion without parental consent. If a 15 year old child wins that 'right', do you honestly expect ANY leader from the party of Planned Parenthood to challenge it?
You think gas prices are high now? Wait until you see prices caps imposed, Jimmy Carter-style, so you'll have higher prices and longer lines. We'll have a president that preaches to us the value of sacrifice, which as we all know, worked so well during the Carter years.
As disgusted as we are with George W. Bush, we can't give up on the Republican Party.
Why no vetoes? That is what bugs me. He can't seem to hold the line on spending. The Pubs in the House spend like it's not their money (wait... it ISN'T their money!). Pet projects like $1 Billion for highway projects in ALASKA???? WTF?
Gee we can all follow your hero's(Ronald Reagan) example and give complete amnesty to illegal aliens.
I get really tired of your distortions and pitting conservative against conservative.
You spin so well and fast that if we hooked you up to a generator we could solve the USA's energy problem :)
Vote for the best candidate, period. Never consider yourself beholden to one party or the other.
I quit the GOP after they stood around like impotent little boys and let Terri Schindler Schiavo be killed.
My friend and I were talking today about this very topic.
Voting: There is a voting process that allows you to vote for more than one person for president. Here's how it goes. I vote for Gingrich as my first choice. Then ON THE SAME BALLOT I vote for Delay (or a write in candidate)on my second chice. Then I vote for Bush on my third choice.
When the tallies come in, Bush wins...so my vote counts. However, the party sees also the true direction I want it to go in.
Laura Ingram had a guest on who suggested the Admin put a man on the ground ( not from the Pentagon) who Daily or every other day reports to the Americans how well we are doing in Iraq.As it is now the administration is selling out our troops by NOt doing great PR. And all we do is whine about the MSM.
The Republicans are so each individually concerned with their own careers they won't fight! We won the election totally and they are letting the Dummies run the show. What differnece does it make if we put in a really conservative judge? The Dems will twist and shout anyways...so just go for it!
That's just the way it is.
Another party can come into being by electing as many Republicans as possible, then splitting off into another party.
Pluralities only elect Dems, i.e. Clinton. He never once got over 50% in either '92 or '96.
If you think that the Pubs are using you, well, use them back. But you are only truly being used when you vote 3rd party as it stands today.
If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!
I'm not disgusted with the President and wasn't thinking about giving up... Thanks for the vanity. :\
Today though except for very minor differences the pubbie establishment looks like the rat establishment.
Yes there are radicals on both sides but when you get right down to it the war cry is, "Show me the money".
It isn't just pitting conservatives against each other. The spending going on is OBSCENE. Then when we really do need to spend serious money (rebuilding New Orleans properly) we can't figure out where to get the money from. No one wants to give up their little pet projects, cow fart research, money to other nations, etc. Dems have the easy answer: raise taxes. What does that solve? Nothing. Dems may be the party of tax and spend, but this group of Republicans are the party of spend and spend some more. It is sickening.
The only alternative is to pressure the party to act right! Besides, it's not really conservatives vs. liberals who decide elections. It's all those in the middle people who vote for the most handsome candidate who actually swing the election.
The biggest problem in regards to Pres. Bush not vetoing is the fact that he either had to accept or veto the bill in its entirety. Since SCROTUM outlaw line-item vetos, which is truly stupid considering in Marbury v. Madison, the Court only struck down apellate jurisdiction over writs of mandamus and prohibitions instead of the whole law. With that vetoing ability, the worse part of the First Ammendment Infringement Act (McCain-Feingold) and assorted pork would have been struck dead.
I am actually something of a libertarian myself. I still vote Republican, anything else amounts to a vote for the Dems, something I just cannot do.
Karl, is that you? ; )
The Ross Perot clone bunch?
That really showed the lefties!
The party is in a very real sense controlled by those who volunteer to work for the party and do all the hard work to get candidates elected.
"The Republicans won't do what I want, So I will go eat worms" crowd is only revealing how unwilling or unable they are to effect election outcomes. Candidates do what the people who elect them want done. And candidates know it is the grass roots workers that elect them.
Take my county .. Ross County Ohio.. There are about 25 or 30 people out of the county population of 50,000 who control the local Republican party organization. Most of them are moderate to mildly conservative. And if a candidate wants to carry Ross County he had best get the support of nearly all of those 25 to 30 people. They are the ones who go door to door for weeks before elections getting thousands of voters organized to vote. They man the phone banks to get out the vote on election day. They are reponsible for lots of votes.
They work for the primary candidates they like, and candidates know they have to win the party volunteers suport if they hope to win.
If there were 100 local volunteers in Ross County and 70 to 75 of them were conservative, candidates would take a much more conservative stance.
Many people think they have clout because they have one vote. But the people who can produces dozens or in some cases hundreds and in a few cases even thousands of votes have many times the clout. In Ohio a large number of the volunteers are moderate.. and they work to elect RINOs... Ask DeWhine and SonofaVich how that works.
lol. true.
"God put him in the White House". Well damn, I guess I don't need to vote any more, huh?
The expansion of the federal government was considerably slower when Dims were in charge. Back then, the pubbies kept them in line.
But now that the GOP is drinking from the fountain of power, it's Katy bar the door.
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