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Botched abortion kills both mother & baby
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/24/05 | Dr. Kelly Hollowell

Posted on 09/24/2005 2:08:34 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: UltraKonservativen
SURVIVORS OF ABORTION
101 posted on 09/24/2005 8:57:46 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Millions for defense but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
This clinic should certainly be made to pay BIG for killing this young woman.

This has wrongful death written all over it. No doubt the abortionists have major liability insurance though.

102 posted on 09/24/2005 9:03:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bobbdobbs
The maternal mortality rate is six times higher during natural childbirth than from an abortion.

Didn't take long for the babykillers to surface. What you don't know and will never even care about is that abortion statistics are notoriously distorted for the benefit of credulous chumps like you.

Abortion deaths are rorutinely listed as something neutral, like septicemia. The fact that the sepsis came from a perforated uterus or a torn intestine due to the incompetence of one of your heroes, is never recorded in the records.

103 posted on 09/24/2005 9:08:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bobbdobbs

So are you saying that YOUR mother was crazy to take such a risk? Just curious.


104 posted on 09/24/2005 9:12:57 PM PDT by MoefromMs
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To: jscottdavis_for_48th_district
We don't want our ladies sneaking across the border to have an abortion in some dingy garage someplace.

According to this article, they can go to a dingy garage in Wichita Kansas for the same treatment, and maybe be killed. Guess you think that's a better deal for "our ladies."

105 posted on 09/24/2005 9:15:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bobbdobbs
Natural childbirth kills more mothers than abortions

Deliberate lies are typically frowned on here. I think you probably need to quit while you're ahead.

106 posted on 09/24/2005 9:21:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: twigs
I don't understand why, if they are going to undergo such a procedure, that they don't stay where medical personnel is with them, or at least an emergency button away.... I would think they do care about liability.

Many clinics are set up like assembly lines, with the abortion doctor working one day a week, and the women all scheduled for the same day. Then they push them through one by one. I don't know if that was the case at the clinic in this story, but it sure sounds like it.

107 posted on 09/24/2005 9:50:22 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: wagglebee; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping


108 posted on 09/24/2005 9:55:33 PM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: wagglebee

Thank you for the ping... somehow I missed it earlier and see my name there now. I appreciate your giving me a head's up. This is so very very tragic and sad.


109 posted on 09/24/2005 9:56:47 PM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping!


110 posted on 09/24/2005 10:04:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: twigs
To a hotel room? Is this SOP?

Yes it is. What I'm wondering about was were her parents with her? They are not mentioned in any way except making sure she had an abortion.

111 posted on 09/24/2005 10:06:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: wagglebee

Pray hard for Tiller. Like the worst of the mass murderers, our prayers can have an effect. Pray for the liberation of Tiller's soul from evil.


112 posted on 09/24/2005 10:09:31 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: bobbdobbs

The infants' mortality rate during abotions is 100%.


113 posted on 09/24/2005 10:10:45 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: twigs

Yes, from what I have read.


114 posted on 09/24/2005 10:15:58 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: wagglebee

Abortion IS murder!


115 posted on 09/24/2005 10:17:07 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
Angel in the Waters -- New Pro-Life book for children [Tissue Alert]
116 posted on 09/24/2005 10:17:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jscottdavis_for_48th_district
If you outlaw abortion, mothers will go to the black market to have them performed regardless. Then we would have a very serious problem on our hands. In nations where abortions are illegal, just as many are performed on the black market compared to the nations that it legalized. Just something to consider.

I don't know how committed you are to your 'pro-choice' stance, as I have only your comments here and your FR profile page to go on. But I have something else for you to consider if you are willing...

If I may be so bold as to ask if it is because you feel you have no right to "judge" because you are not a woman and therefore cannot know? That is where my brother resides... in that "live and let live", "not my place to judge what others should do" world. But my brother is one of a lessening crowd... more and more people are realizing exactly what our elected officials are holding so dear through every election, every appointment and nomination. The right for every and any woman and girl to kill her child without consequence.

You write it is a woman's body, so her choice. But part of her body, when she is pregnant, belongs to another person. Different DNA, if you are coming at this from a scientific view.

If abortion is outlawed - which is to say, not only is Roe v Wade overturned but each and every one of our 50 states makes abortion illegal ALSO (as Roe v Wade does NOT ban abortion outright as MSM would have us believe), do you not think that perhaps men and women would think twice before jumping into bed with people? If they did not have such an easy fix for their neglected duties in personal responsibility, would they so hastily consent to lie with anyone? The majority of abortions are performed for the mother's "mental health" = #1 reason given that wasn't written down: "I'm not ready."

When immoral things are legal - does that make them right? Of course not. That abortion is legal makes it no more moral than slavery. It only means that people can feel better about themselves for committing willful murder. Women are told "it's only a blob of tissue", "it isn't a baby yet" etc. A fetal heart starts beating at 22 days, or 3 weeks after conception. Most women do not even know they are pregnant yet. But that 2nd heart beating in their bodies isn't theirs. It belongs to another life. Should it be legal for someone to end that life because they "don't feel like it right now"? That bumpersticker we've all seen "Abortion stops a beating heart" isn't just something Pro-Lifers tout as a cute phrase. It is a scientific fact. And if you prefer to look at this from another perspective, perhaps I can let someone closer to God than I speak:

"Every human being, even the infant in the mother's womb, has the right to life immediately from God, not from the parent or any human society or authority. Therefore, there is no man, no human authority, no science, no medical, eugenic, social, economic or moral "indication" that can show or give valid juridical title for direct deliberate disposition concerning an innocent human life-which is to say, a disposition that aims at its destruction either as an end in itself or as the means of attaining another end that is perhaps in no way illicit itself. Thus, for example, to save the life of the mother is a most noble end, but the direct killing of the child as a means to this end is not licit. "

~ Allocution to Italian midwives Pope Pius XII October 29, 1951


Something to consider.
117 posted on 09/24/2005 10:46:34 PM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: Alamo-Girl

As always, you're very welcome. :)


118 posted on 09/24/2005 10:47:08 PM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: bobbdobbs
For 1997 the ratio is 20:1 -- twenty times more dead mothers from natural childbirth than from abortion.

What? Did I miss your data on natural childbirth -where is it? Furyther what about "unatural" childbirth -where is that info?

If you are going to advovcate for abortion why play games -killing human beings intentionally is far far different than realizing death by accident or unintended consequence...

119 posted on 09/24/2005 11:13:53 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: eleni121

"Pray for the liberation of Tiller's soul from evil."

When I think about him, I don't feel fit to talk to God.

But then, I never was, so...


120 posted on 09/25/2005 1:19:13 AM PDT by dsc
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