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3 in 82nd Airborne Say Beating Iraqi Prisoners Was Routine
NY Times ^
| 9/23/05
| Eric Schmitt
Posted on 09/24/2005 2:09:01 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Patriot from Philly
Ah, another abuse story from the New York Times, timed perfectly to coincide with anti-war Saturday. The Times and Cindy must be furious with Rita. They had everything ready to go - the polls, the hundreds of thousands of marchers, the routine Americans, the grieving mothers, and now, the abusing soldiers. And.Rita had to ruin everything!!!
What? There's a demonstration in New York? Haven't you heard, there's another huge HURRICANÊ!! It's going to hit Texas... or Louisiana...
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:33:08 AM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: Crackingham; All
Does this look familiar: American soldiers "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, cut off limbs, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan...." John Kerry, 1971
Maybe the captain has political ambitions, or is just a shill for the left. You have to demonize the troops so people will stop supporting them, it's all according to the lefts 1968 playbook, time has not moved on in their heads.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:35:00 AM PDT
by
Bostton1
(Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have!)
To: rambo316
The Independent has a torture story too. What the real scandal is that the media was coordinating with the anti-War organizers. USA/CNN/GAllop had a fake poll, the abuse story, the "huge" demonstrations.
We need to counter this, the media is collaborating with the radical left to create a subjective reality.
I'm sick of it.
And why are we still getting the phony abuse stories. Apparently, the media still thinks it can beat Bush up with these.
If Bush called out a reporter instead of looking so weak, he'd get his base back quickly.
To: Crackingham
This was before Abu Ghraib but just like it. I expect they put panties on their head too? What were these guys promised? An interview with Katie Couric or Diane Sawyer or something? A book deal? Fug 'em.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:39:18 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: All
In one incident, the Human Rights Watch report states, an off-duty cook broke a detainee's leg with a metal baseball bat. A off-duty cook? That got to be kidding me. How many cooks would bother going down there to mess with these detainee's? This is real life not a Steven Segall movie.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:40:34 AM PDT
by
pepperhead
(Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
To: pepperhead
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:41:39 AM PDT
by
pepperhead
(Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
To: Patriot from Philly
Brother Patriot, it is time to re institute hangings for all traitors. Congressional traitors, entertainment traitors and traitors of all walks of life who have given aid and comfort to the enemy through their America bashing, let's hang em high.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:44:34 AM PDT
by
rambo316
(America is a Republic and the U.S. Constitution guarantees a Republican form of Government)
To: Recovering_Democrat
The Old Gray Whorefish wrap
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:45:46 AM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(William Jefferson Democrat Louisiana - doesn't everybody keep their cash in their freezer)
To: Crackingham
This is what our boys can expect if they are caught by the enemy. I hope we hunt down these guys with their fists in the air and string them up the same way.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:46:39 AM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: Patriot from Philly
The Times and Cindy must be furious with Rita. They had everything ready to go - the polls, the hundreds of thousands of marchers, the routine Americans, the grieving mothers, and now, the abusing soldiers. And.Rita had to ruin everything!!!Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
Maybe they should just go home and stfu. I am sure the good folks in the Gulf states could use a break.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:52:20 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: Patriot from Philly
Ah, another abuse story from the New York Times, timed perfectly to coincide with anti-war Saturday. I am a bit more cynical--the first thing I thought of was the decision to allow testimony in the Able Danger inquiry.
To: Bostton1
Yep! I caught that, too. 'Magic Busses', "camp whatever", demonstrations on the mall, sure bring flashbacks...of a rotten era.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:57:06 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: Uncle Joe Cannon
The bastinado is a bit mild for this..
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:57:20 AM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: Crackingham
And this is what these "excuses for human excrement production" did to their own people!
I imagine THIS person would have welcomed an embarrassing moment or a broken bone over being buried alive!
There's a whole lot more
here.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:58:30 AM PDT
by
HighlyOpinionated
(In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
To: ChefKeith
Just more fuel for the "America is wrong" crowd. They seem unable to discern the fact that the "insurgents" are non-traditional "soldiers" who do not obey any international covenants on treatment of prisoners, and have no defined government for whom they are fighting to defend. Anarchy is not a form of "government in exile" or any kind of "freedom movement". These are street thugs, and it is imperative to bring them under control.
Fear and intimidation work in conjunction with physical detainment. Takes the sass out of their attitudes and the wind out of their sails.
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posted on
09/24/2005 4:20:15 AM PDT
by
alloysteel
("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
To: Crackingham
"
....and forced to hold five-gallon water jugs with arms outstretched..."
All I can say is "BULLSHEET"
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posted on
09/24/2005 4:25:12 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: Crackingham
All this is testimony to is that those soldiers who did this violated everything they'd been taught. If the unit was aware of it, then the unit, too, was out of line.
However, in defense of those on the line who get stressed out when their and their buddies' lives are on the line....walk a mile in their shoes.
They're still guilty, but so is the guy in the middle of a riot who shoots someone at his door instead of waiting for them to break through the door.
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posted on
09/24/2005 4:29:40 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: rambo316
I think you're right about the aticle being made up. The quote from one of the sergeants just doesn't seem to ring right. I don't think the syntax is believable.
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posted on
09/24/2005 4:36:08 AM PDT
by
x1stcav
(Hooahh!)
To: All
"5 gal water jugs with outstretched arms" okay......Thems some mighty strong bad guys.
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posted on
09/24/2005 4:41:35 AM PDT
by
Nooseman
To: Nooseman
Sounds like basic training routine.
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