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1 posted on 09/22/2005 7:43:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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2 posted on 09/22/2005 7:44:41 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (We DARE Defend Our Rights [Alabama State Motto])
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Nice very nice.

Thanks for the chart, great reference point.
3 posted on 09/22/2005 7:46:35 PM PDT by roylene
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I got the pleasure to watch that interview.

I was actually LAUGHING at Donahuckster and hoping that the Bloviator (great wrestling gimmick I think) would hit him.


4 posted on 09/22/2005 7:47:47 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Hey Fox News, MORE MOLLY, LESS Greta)
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Hey I really liked your post. I have been thinking for some time that Sacrifice is one of the most beautiful things a person can do. Shame so many have lost touch with what a virtue it is.


5 posted on 09/22/2005 7:48:00 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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In modern war, the enemies of the American military suffer a casualty rate that is easily 10 times what we suffer. In some situations, I believe it approaches 100 times our casualty rate.

And my big fear is that in all the world, China is perhaps the only country that would still consider a war to be acceptable if casulty rates were kept below, let's say, the 20 million mark.

We'd cut and run long before China registered any pain.

6 posted on 09/22/2005 7:48:54 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Phil is ten times as despicable as Bill-I rest my case.
7 posted on 09/22/2005 7:50:13 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Show me a liberal and I'll show you a head designed for nothing but cracking walnuts.)
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Good article, well thought and good statistics. There were once liberals that understood honor and sacrifice. Of course those men if alive today would be bedrock conservatives.
8 posted on 09/22/2005 7:52:19 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (DU, more toxic than New Orleans water.)
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Thoughts?

Yeah I have a thought. It isn't original and I don't remember who said it but it bears repeating here:

Pacifists are parasites who live off of the sins of others.

10 posted on 09/22/2005 7:53:25 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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Fantastic post. I wish someone would do the research and show the percentages of Americans who die by accident each year vs. the percentage of deaths in Iraq of all who have rotated through.


11 posted on 09/22/2005 7:55:04 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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I know this has been said before here, but thank God we weren't this America during WW2. They knew sacrifice and did it proudly. Imagine for a moment asking this bunch to have ration cards, to give up things for the war effort! They would go ballistic. In fact, they are now for no reason. Sure, we mourn each death, but they sign up knowing this. They believe in this cause. I am appalled and frankly scared of Americans these days. I don't know who they are.


12 posted on 09/22/2005 7:56:20 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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Excellent. I will be saving this for future use, like right now.


13 posted on 09/22/2005 7:57:52 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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Thanks for posting, I'm cutting, pasting and e-mailing everyone! I, like you, find it difficult to watch and listen to these idiots that don't get it, can't fathom it, and will stop at nothing short of making a@@@s of themselves while trying to explain their idiot beliefs. I wish interviewers, (BOR, etc.) would argue the case that those "kids" sign up as adults. We don't send anybody without their consent to be sent. Liberals make no sense to me except non-sense. I fear for our military angels who "walk the talk" without complaint, but yet, here are all these limo-libs spouting the worst hate-speach toward conservatives, our troops, our President....

Sorry, rant done.


14 posted on 09/22/2005 7:59:57 PM PDT by jp3 ("Who cares what entertainers think about international affairs." Johnny Carson, Dec. 1967)
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All one need do is to ask old Phil,

"Yes, O.K., and how many Iraqi civilians have been killed by the insurgents and the terrorists (15,000),

"and how many Iraqi civilians have been killed just for trying to vote or just for trying to join the police force, or just because they publicly denounced the terrorists, or just because they are Shia and not Sunni, or just because they are not former Baathists???"

"How many Mr. Phil? And what did THEY die for? You really think they died for us and not for their own chance for a democratic government?"

"You really think our troops are dieing for oil and not for those Iraqis?"

"Because if that's what you think Phil, then you are a bigger idiot than I always thought you were."


15 posted on 09/22/2005 8:00:38 PM PDT by Wuli
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When it comes to political leadership, both parties are found lacking. The left stands, these days for nothing; and the right these days sure look and smell like the left used to.


18 posted on 09/22/2005 8:02:10 PM PDT by ImpBill (Nothing More!)
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Actually, I suspect they do understand sacrifice. It's death with a purpose.

They are all in favor of killing innocent unborn children, because that is done for the convenience of the mother. They oppose capital punishment, because that is killing with a moral purpose.

They have no problem with 60,000 automobile deaths, because those are accidental. They cannot abide by one death, or one killing, by our soldiers in battle, for that is done with a moral purpose.

What they abhor, above all else, is acting on moral purpose, for such is a grievous violation of their "religion".

The greater the moral purpose, the more they hate it.

20 posted on 09/22/2005 8:04:14 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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It's not just the concept of sacrifice that's been lost; it's the idea of price of any kind. Everything should be handed to them for no cost at all.

You know, sort of like kids.


21 posted on 09/22/2005 8:05:25 PM PDT by D.P.Roberts
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Absolutely fantastic post. You said what I wanted to, but was too busy muttering under my breath and throwing (soft) objects at the television.

Historical perspective is yet another thing the Left is lackiing.


23 posted on 09/22/2005 8:07:21 PM PDT by JoanneEck (Land of the free because of the brave.)
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By the standards of modern warfare, Iraq isn't squat so far as casualties. Hell, more people died at the ancient Battle of Marathon.

That won't keep the hysterics on the Left from spewing about it. They only wars they're interested in fighting are over condoms and bong hits.

24 posted on 09/22/2005 8:07:34 PM PDT by Reactionary
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The Left is all about gimmee, gimmee, gimmee...my rights, my entitlements. Self-sacrifice is an anathema.


27 posted on 09/22/2005 8:12:32 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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Donahue is a deceitful little snake in the grass Communist. He doesn't come up to the boot tops of the lowest private in the Army.


28 posted on 09/22/2005 8:14:35 PM PDT by claudiustg (Vote for one Democrat, vote for them all...)
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