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Rumsfeld Ordered Shaffer and Philpott Not to Testify
QT Monster's Place ^ | 9/20/2005 | vadkins

Posted on 09/20/2005 8:09:20 PM PDT by vadkins

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To: nvcdl
Possibly the Able Danger data/code was pulled from the dustbin?

Or replaced by something even better.....Don't you throw away the older item at home when you buy a new better one. DOD would NOT want the enemy to know what they have in place.

41 posted on 09/20/2005 9:10:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Blanco, Landrieu, Nagin & Witt.. good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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To: vadkins
Long ago, I represented Ernest Fitzgerald (blew the whistle on the cost overruns on the C-5A airplane). The Pentagon sought ti punish him for telling the truth when called to testify before Congress.

It is a federal FELONY to interfere with the testimony of any witness before a congressional committee. That applied then, and it applies here. Fitzgerald won his case for damages against everyone except President Nixon. (Court ruled that the President, only, was immune from civil suit in the matter.)

I hope this message reaches these military witnesses, or at least their attorneys, asap.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Kathleen Blanco: Beyond Gross Public Dumb"

42 posted on 09/20/2005 9:13:19 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (This Freeper was linked for the 2nd time by Rush Limbaugh today (9/13/05). Hoohah!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Easy enough to prove... the DOD should inform Congress that no such "orders" were given...


43 posted on 09/20/2005 9:13:29 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Congressman Billybob

Contact the congressman's office immediately with this information.


44 posted on 09/20/2005 9:14:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Blanco, Landrieu, Nagin & Witt.. good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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To: vadkins

WTF????

Why does the Bush Administration CONTINUE to cover for the Clintons?


45 posted on 09/20/2005 9:15:33 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: CyberAnt
It is a FELONY for anyone to order any witness not to appear before a committee of Congress and testify truthfully. It is a felony even if done by Secretary Rumsfeld. This is black-letter law.

John / Billybob

46 posted on 09/20/2005 9:15:56 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (This Freeper was linked for the 2nd time by Rush Limbaugh today (9/13/05). Hoohah!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

So how do you draw the line between matters of national security and those the pretend to be matters of national security to keep things covered-up? How do we, the public, find out the truth in this matter when it involves sensitive information?


47 posted on 09/20/2005 9:18:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: vadkins

48 posted on 09/20/2005 9:18:47 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: JCEccles

Bingo


49 posted on 09/20/2005 9:23:07 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I think the man said he had not been subpoenaed yet.


50 posted on 09/20/2005 9:23:16 PM PDT by phelanw
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To: taxesareforever

Now I really wish Bush would go. Get rid of the goof. Let Dick C do it. At least he's not a Clinton Patsy.


51 posted on 09/20/2005 9:24:36 PM PDT by Pit1
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To: vadkins

Can't connect the dots here and wouldn't if I could, but aren't we missing some pretty obvious dots? How likely is it that Rumsfeld would leave something as important as security--not to mention military intelligence--to chance ("chance" as in CIA, FBI, Congressional overisight committees, et al)? Would you?

That one person was given and then followed an order to erase/delete/destroy certain "database" (a person who, oddly, IS able to testify to that fact) doesn't mean that that certain database was actually destroyed or that the information it contained no longer exists.

While the whistle-blowers here are obviously concerned patriots, there may be smarter concerned patriots pulling the strings.


52 posted on 09/20/2005 9:25:07 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: phelanw

They can order him not to voluntarily give testimony but if the Committee subpoenas him then he can't be ordered not to give it? So all the committee has to do is subpoena him.

And if they don't....

Then you know it is a cover-up.


53 posted on 09/20/2005 9:25:38 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: hoosiermama
Done. I just sent my information to Rep. Weldon's office.

John / Billybob
54 posted on 09/20/2005 9:26:29 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (This Freeper was linked for the 2nd time by Rush Limbaugh today (9/13/05). Hoohah!)
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To: RummyChick
The METHODS are hardly a State Secret... but it is a useful smokescreen

http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,62390,00.html

55 posted on 09/20/2005 9:26:43 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: clee1
"Why does the Bush Administration CONTINUE to cover for the Clintons?"

The fix has been in since George Herbert Bush appointed liberal Davis Souter to the Supreme Court...

He THEN sabotaged his own campaign in 1992, enabling an unknown Bill Clinton to ransack the office of the Presidency, AND besmirch the honor of the Country...

Today, his son continues to cover-up and obstruct the truth about Bill Clinton.

Oh yeah -- your question was "WHY??"

Because the New World Order elites run the world, and thus own our pols.

Now unless someone has a better explanation, I'm ALL ears.

56 posted on 09/20/2005 9:27:25 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: vadkins
Now, we have to ask, what does Clinton have on Dubya's dad or his family?

Clinton is making a mockery out of the Bushes. He parades them around like trick monkeys on a leash, then he comes out and trashes them.

Now, it looks like he has them covering for the activities of his administration. This is sick. At some point, the Bushes need to come out and put everything on the table. Our national security is at stake.

I want to support our president. I believe in the war against terror. However, this cover-up is nauseating.

57 posted on 09/20/2005 9:27:38 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: RummyChick

That's also how I would interpret that chain of events.


58 posted on 09/20/2005 9:27:53 PM PDT by phelanw
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To: clee1

FBI files?


59 posted on 09/20/2005 9:28:34 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Mach9

I dont follow your reasoning.
You said:

"was given and then followed an order "

And then you said:

"doesn't mean that that certain database was actually destroyed "

What does this mean. He followed the order but someone kept a backup copy?


60 posted on 09/20/2005 9:29:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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