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Offending Starbucks cups yanked at Baylor
Waco Tribune-Herald ^ | 09/20/2005 | Mike Anderson and Cindy V. Culp

Posted on 09/20/2005 6:41:34 AM PDT by ValerieUSA

Coffee cups featuring a quote by a gay author about growing up homosexual have been pulled from Baylor University's on-campus Starbucks.

Aramark, which as the contractor for Baylor dining services oversees the coffee outlet, pulled cups from the campus store earlier this month after a university staff member sent out an e-mail complaining about the appropriateness of the quote at a Baptist university, Baylor officials said.

The e-mail was sent on to Baylor dining services, which consulted with Starbucks' district office, which said it fully supported a decision to take the cup out of circulation to avoid offending others, Baylor officials said Monday.

“My understanding is it was a decision made by Baylor dining services staff, and I've not yet been able to trace it back to any Baylor administrators telling them point-blank to pull the cup,” Baylor spokesman Larry Brumley said.

He added, “I think they were trying to be sensitive. Obviously, Baylor is a Baptist-affiliated institution, and Baptists as a denomination have been pretty outspoken on the record about the denomination's views about the homosexual lifestyle.”

The action was spurred by the fact that some of the store's coffee cups contained a quote from novelist Armistead Maupin. He is best known for a six-book series titled Tales of the City, which is about life in San Francisco in the 1970s and 1980s.

The quote on the cup reads:

“My only regret about being gay is that I repressed it for so long. I surrendered my youth to the people I feared when I could have been out there loving someone. Don't make that mistake yourself. Life's too damn short.”

The cup is No. 43 in a series of cups being used chainwide by the Seattle-based coffee giant. The cups are part of a campaign called “The Way I See It,” which features quotes from a variety of notable figures. They range from the musings of electronic musician Moby to the thoughts of figure skater Michelle Kwan.

Sanja Gould, a spokeswoman with Starbucks' corporate office, said the company sees the program “as an extension of the coffeehouse culture – a way to promote open, respectful conversation among a wide variety of individuals.”

Gould said cups with the Maupin quote has been in circulation since July. She said the cups were placed randomly in the cases shipped to the store, and store employees would have to remove the cups manually.

“As far as I know, there weren't many of the cups,” Gould said.

Officials at other Waco-area Starbucks said they are still using the cups.

Linda Ricks, marketing program manager for Baylor Dining Services, said she could not comment on the cups, and referred calls to Aramark's corporate offices, which could not be reached for comment Monday.

At least one other group has expressed its dissatisfaction with the Maupin cup.

Concerned Women for America, a national Christian women's organization, says Starbucks is promoting a homosexual agenda with the cup. The group also has expressed concern about the campaign as a whole, saying most of the quotes are liberal, according to a report in the Seattle Times.

Members of the local gay community said they are disappointed by the cups' removal.

Cade Hammond, president of the board of directors for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance of Central Texas, said he sees pulling the cups as unnecessarily restrictive. He said the situation reminds him of people who burn books because they don't like what they say.

“You can't restrict information like that,” Hammond said. “It just seems a little backwards.”

Valerie Fallas, president of the Waco chapter of Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, called the action “unnecessary.”

“It's a shame that anybody would do this,” Fallas said. “Whatever you feel, whatever you think about something, discussion is the number one thing to do to educate yourself on an issue.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: baptist; cafe; campus; coffee; coffeehouse; gay; gaycoffee; homosexualagenda; maupin; quotes; starbucks; university; waco
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To: CajunConservative

Baylor appears to not like the cups but the money that Starbucks pays them for their retail location they appear to like.


101 posted on 09/20/2005 10:51:47 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Do you agree with Baylor still taking starbucks money to be able to sell in that location? One would think that a Christian school would not want a company that supports gays to be based on campus.


102 posted on 09/20/2005 10:53:40 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: ValerieUSA
He said the situation reminds him of people who burn books because they don't like what they say.

Apparently he has never heard of burning books because their content was false, misleading, deceptive, and extremely dangerous. I wonder if he would approve of racist, sexist, or "homophobic" quotations on Starbucks cups.

103 posted on 09/20/2005 10:59:06 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: SquirrelKing

I had my first Pumpkin Spice Latte today for lunch. It was yummy.

My all time fave though, is the peppermint mocha usually available in January here. It's better than a man!


104 posted on 09/20/2005 11:18:51 AM PDT by WIladyconservative (Save us from future Freepathons - set up a monthly donation!)
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To: HostileTerritory

I don't know if there is Chic-Fil-A near Baylor or not. Do they have Bible verses on their cups? We don't have one in my locale.


105 posted on 09/20/2005 11:21:15 AM PDT by Jessarah
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To: WIladyconservative
My all time fave though, is the peppermint mocha usually available in January here. It's better than a man!

Um. I'll have to take your word for it. =)

106 posted on 09/20/2005 11:56:41 AM PDT by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: Rummyfan

---- Yes, gay is genetic, but gender roles are learned. So goes the 'logic' anyway! ----

Hmmmm... you seem certain yet I have never seen any unbiased proof of such a claim. (re: genetic)

I suspect you left off the </sarcasm>


107 posted on 09/20/2005 12:20:29 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: ValerieUSA

"“My only regret about being gay is that I repressed it for so long. I surrendered my youth to the people I feared when I could have been out there loving someone. Don't make that mistake yourself. Life's too damn short.” "


And gets shorter with AIDS.

If God wanted us to sodomize each other, he wouldn't have made women so appealing.


108 posted on 09/20/2005 12:30:14 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Paloma_55

Sorry - thought the sarcasm was implied!


109 posted on 09/20/2005 1:00:01 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: ValerieUSA
Cade Hammond, president of the board of directors for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance of Central Texas, said he sees pulling the cups as unnecessarily restrictive. He said the situation reminds him of people who burn books because they don't like what they say.

Typical fag/liberal response. Play the nazi card.
110 posted on 09/20/2005 5:33:58 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: kcvl
He was running around with whores and outcasts.

Another typical copout from fags/liberals. Jesus did not hang out with sinners as a sign of approval or solidarity. They were the most ill and in most dire need of a doctor. That is why Jesus minsitered to them.
111 posted on 09/20/2005 5:42:25 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: CharlesWayneCT

no, this is free market in action.

The $$$ rules.

There is 100% right to put ecconomic pressure on a corporation to not promote a sexual BEHAVIOR.

The two have nothing in common.

This is no different than Ruth Ginsberg advocating the age of consent of 12.


112 posted on 09/20/2005 6:28:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: All

note how the MSM article implies "growing up homosexual" as a means of pushing the LIE that homosexuality is a born trait.


113 posted on 09/20/2005 6:31:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ValerieUSA

Grape Juice


115 posted on 09/21/2005 2:42:07 AM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

The guy is right about one think, life is very short for homosexuals. They usually last 50 years or less. I think the average was somewhere in the forties. Amen.


116 posted on 09/21/2005 2:56:48 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Finally, not having found the perfect coffee, I broke down and bought a pound of Starbucks French Roast.

Took it home, brewed a pot, and as soon as I took a sip said to myself "darn." It was not just better than the rest, it was great.

I did the same thing but found that 8 O'clock whole bean still as good as or better than Starbucks. I grind ours fresh daily.

117 posted on 09/21/2005 3:08:00 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: tumblindice

LOL!!! Post of the day. Wonder what Bob Jones University is doing with the mugs? I think they just put in a Starbucks this year or last.


118 posted on 09/21/2005 3:17:56 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Paloma_55
Growing up homosexual.... Given that there is ZERO evidence that homosexual behavior is any more genetic than pedophilia or adultery, we must assume the author was sexually molested by a homosexual pedophile...

Actually, there is more than "ZERO" evidence of a genetic factor in homosexuality (e.g. twin studies and others), but even leaving that aside, you have a false dichotomy there -- there are far more possibilities than just a) genetics or b) molestation, so it's not the case that we "must" assume (b) in the alleged absense of (a). For example, homosexuality could be caused by a non-genetic birth defect, or developmental errors, or any of a number of other possibilities which would be neither genetic nor involve molestation.

As with most things in biology, though, there's likely to be not "one" cause, but instead several contributing factors which can be present in greater or lesser amounts in different specific cases.

119 posted on 09/21/2005 3:25:11 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Dustbunny

I often visit friends who use 8 o'clock. Good, but not as good as Starbucks, IMHO.


120 posted on 09/21/2005 4:24:46 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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