Posted on 09/20/2005 6:29:16 AM PDT by drt1
New Orleans' Nagin says Adm. Allen 'stepped outside his lane'
NEW ORLEANS - After backing off on his call for some residents to return to New Orleans, the city's mayor ripped into the top U.S. government relief official on Tuesday, underscoring the rising tension between city and federal authorities over who has the final say after the devastation of Hurricane Katrina....
The call for another evacuation ahead of a new tropical storm came after repeated warnings from top federal officials — including President Bush himself — that New Orleans was not safe enough to reopen. Federal officials warned that Tropical Storm Rita could breach the city’s weakened levees and swamp the city all over again.
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You said, in part: You have to keep this in mind. The things that make this city and state unique are the very things that work against it in a crisis like this, lack of discipline and lack of organization. Its great for Mardi Gras, bad for hurricane relief.
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That is fine, as long as you don't get upset when others who expect discipline and organization cannot assist you because you cannot sober up and get out of town on 72 hours notice (or what should have been 72 hours notice under the apparently undisciplined and unorganized evacuation plan purportedly adopted by the city). I won't blame you as long as you don't blame the feds.
"The contagious people of Washington have stood firm against diversity during this long period of increment weather." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I promise you a police car on every sidewalk." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I'm a night owl." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"Bitch set me up." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People have criticized me because my security detail is larger than the president's. But you must ask yourself: are there more people who want to kill me than who want to kill the president? I can assure you there are." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I read a funny story about how the Republicans freed the slaves. The Republicans are the ones who created slavery by law in the 1600's. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was not a Republican." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People blame me because these water mains break, but I ask you, if the water mains didn't break, would it be my responsibility to fix them then? WOULD IT!?!" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC These are actual quotes taken from Mayor Marion Barry, of Washington, D.C.
"The contagious people of Washington have stood firm against diversity during this long period of increment weather." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I promise you a police car on every sidewalk." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I'm a night owl." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"Bitch set me up." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People have criticized me because my security detail is larger than the president's. But you must ask yourself: are there more people who want to kill me than who want to kill the president? I can assure you there are." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I read a funny story about how the Republicans freed the slaves. The Republicans are the ones who created slavery by law in the 1600's. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was not a Republican." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People blame me because these water mains break, but I ask you, if the water mains didn't break, would it be my responsibility to fix them then? WOULD IT!?!" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
This guy is good compared to the previous three??? What a mess NO must have been even before Katrina!
"I think that Louie the Fair-a-con is guiding the Mayor's mind and spine."
LOL! Maybe that's why Nattering Nabob Nagin keeps his head shaved -- better reception from the mother ship!
1 - Ernest "Dutch" Morial
2 - Sidney Barthelemy
3 - Marc Morial
24 years of graft, corruption and incompetence.
Looks like Nagin is doing a good job of keeping the traditions alive - Especially the incompetence custom.
So why did the Mayor Nagin leave 600 buses sit there while he packed the Superdome wih "His Citizens?" and only ordered the EVAC after being told to do so by The President! Left to his own wits, we would followup with a repeat disaster with H Rita!
The margin of error for hurricane forecasts is +/- 80 miles per 24 hours in advance of the storm. This margin of error is huge. Once cannot simply evacuate 300 miles and find a motel(if you even can find one) every time a hurricane comes into the area. Everyone else on the Gulf Coast will be doing the same thing. There are few if any lodgings available. Many people make multiple reservations in all directions from all states in the likely affected area.
People use experience and history to decide when and where to go. In the case of New Orleans, they really had a practical 24 hours or less to do something and they have a handful of bridges to use. When the storm gets within 24 hours, you cannot evacuate as you cannot be caught in a traffic jam on the road in one.
This looks more clear cut to Monday morning quarterbacks than is the reality. The other material aspect is that this storm was unlike any other in memory or on the record books.
bttt
Sir, please note this was a CAT 5 Hurricane heading directly to a City built below Sea Level with Levees good at best for Cat 3. Your logic is astounding to say the least
They got 'em out after the hurricane hit, didn't they? At least the ones still alive.
Astounding again! Traffic was not jammed up, Traffic was not reversed on the incoming lanes per what was suppose to be,They had a dress rehearsal with Ivan and did the same things wrong again, and there were ample drivers available, they just needed some direction from their leadership.Have a good day.Food and Water and the Red Cross was lined up in convoys to go in the day after and they were denied access and You blamed the Feds, the truth is coming out now.
NO should keep Nagin as the party mayor and then elect a real mayor to handle the grown-up stuff.
Actually- the guidance from everyone including the NHC showed a convergence on NOLA a full 3 days before landfall.
FYI- Galveston, Texas has a voluntary evac in place - as of yesterday. So. 72 hours while not ALWAYS practical- is often necessary.
Regardless- the local incompetence level in NOLA is simply unbelievable.
Have you checked your figures? 250,000 affecting Texas? LOL
You got it. I stand corrected on the spelling. I was working in DC during his tenures and believe me it was a hoot. Embarrassing, but a hoot.
NOLA will mail an absentee ballot (or two) to anyone they can find that ever lived in NOLA (not the largely white Parishes). And their votes will count.
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