The coming conservative collapse

World Net Daily ^ | September 19, 2005 | Vox Day

[BonnieJ]

The Democrats are so far to the left now that Republicans have become "moderates"?

[DuckFan4ever]

Take the whole bottle of pills and get it over with, rat. Can't you spread your sunshine somewhere where it's needed, like the North Pole? I hear they have a great deal on homesteading up there right now.

[Blake#1]

Anglo-Saxon Capitalism (Conservatism) is spreading all over the world. Are you deaf, dumb, and blind?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Don't give your money to the GOP itself. Give it to the conservative Republican candidates directly.

The money collected by the establishment is disbursed to career RINOs and other Rockefeller Republicans.

[Tax-chick]

That is the key for any 3rd party.. Build from the ground up.

I agree. I thought it was weird for something called the "Constitution Party" to be running (practically) nothing but a Presidential campaign ... as if the Constitution had authorized the President to be National Messiah. The whole point of the Constitution was to put as much as possible under State, local, or no government control.

[Protagoras]

BTW, you are a newbie, don't call people trolls and DU people when you are wet behind the ears.

[sarasota]

What exactly will the "collapse" look like?

[ex-snook]

"The Constitution Party is trying to do too much at once. What they need to do now is work on getting people elected to local posts, then state posts, and finally the federal posts."

But their issues are national and international, not zoning or school taxes. I doubt they want to build a patronage system.

[falpro]

All of you trolls can take a hike, I am not buying into this garbage.

Worth repeating.

[Erik Latranyi]

Your speculation about what I want aside, you didn't answer the question.

I guessed that we were both conservatives wanting the same thing.

No luck so far, they have moved significantly left.

I disagree. While some things being done by the current administration and congress are not to my liking, I know it is far better than what the Democrats would be doing.

I know that politics is a battle that never ends. I know that politics is a war you never, ever win. I know that the political side I take will never, ever fully support my individual views perfectly. I know to never lose faith and to keep pushing towards what I want, even though I might never see it realized in my lifetime.

[R. Scott]

So, are there truly no conservatives left in the Republican Party today?

There are an awful lot of professional politicians in the party. The primary aim of each party is to undermine the other.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

The Constitution Party would fair better if they weren't so extremely anti-Republican. Heck, most of them used to be Republicans. They should recognize -- if they are true to their claim that principles trump politics -- that many Republicans are their principled allies. But instead they get ridiculously focused on the Republican Pary, often more than the Democrat Party, simply because they want to drive people away from the Republican Party and into their own camp. That's not principled. It's the same sort of thing they accuse everyone else of: Power trumps principle. When they stop being so anti-Republican then maybe I'll listen to what they are saying.

I take no one seriously who says the Republicans and Democrats are one in the same.

[rattrap]

The Republican party isn't conservative any more, GWB is left of JFK (not kerry), I'm sick of it. Keep giving them votes and they will continue being democrats with R's by their names.

[R. Scott]

We are all LBJ liberals now! Bye Bye Conservatives.

If John Kennedy were alive today he would be considered an arch conservative.

[Paradox]

Where do the South Park Republicans fit in here?

Hmmm, probably somewhere between the republicans and the Libertarians. Fairly fiscally conservative, but with some decidedly liberal social tendencies!

[hsalaw]

"GWB is WYSIWYG as far as politicians go."

Translation, please?

[conservativecorner]

"But just as most Republican Supreme Court nominees have turned out to be treacherous supporters of big government – activist liberals in disguise – their legislative and executive-branch colleagues likewise revealed themselves to be every bit as unfaithful to conservative principles of small government and individual freedom. As is all too often the case, conservative success carried within it the seeds of its own demise."

Conservatives principles haven't changed one bit. The writer gives conservatives way too much credit concerning past elections. We were part of a block of voters that elected Republican majorities in all three branches of government. It certainly doesn't mean that we agreed with everything those three branches said or did. Our reality at the time was do I vote for a Republican or a demoncrat? The choice was easy.

I will fault conservatives for not pressing the national party hard enough for qualified conservatives to fill Republican seats. The primaries are so important and the above mentioned reason is why. Once you get to the general election, your choices are quite limited. Every election cycle is the same for conservatives. We are always the bride's maid and never the bride.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

The Libertarians do the same thing.

[Protagoras]

"If you set your goals low enough, you are bound to achive them"....Walter Payton

[RockinRight]

Yes, although most SPR's I know are essentially anti-gay marriage and pro-life. Think "Larry the Cable Guy" as a good example (although I don't think he actually watches South Park.)