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The coming conservative collapse
World Net Daily ^ | September 19, 2005 | Vox Day

Posted on 09/19/2005 8:10:32 AM PDT by Mikey

The turn of the century was supposed to be the triumph of the conservatives. From the dark era of the Democrat-dominated '60s and '70s, conservatives began their protracted march toward electoral power, culminating finally in the long-awaited capture of all three branches of the federal government. The Reagan Revolution was finally to be realized in earnest!

But just as most Republican Supreme Court nominees have turned out to be treacherous supporters of big government – activist liberals in disguise – their legislative- and executive-branch colleagues likewise revealed themselves to be every bit as unfaithful to conservative principles of small government and individual freedom. As is all too often the case, conservative success carried within it the seeds of its own demise.

President Bush's recent speech on his administration's planned long-term response to Hurricane Katrina marked an interesting point in the continued devolution of American conservatism. Whereas his first five years had previously been a strange combination of strategic Wilsonian foreign policy and tactical Keynesian domestic policy, the president managed to make it abundantly clear that in domestic terms, his presidential guiding light is Lyndon Baines Johnson, not Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Real conservatives now understand they have been betrayed – badly – by this fraudulent man. Compassionate conservatism, as it turns out, is simply another name for Great Society liberalism, and not even the Texas swagger is original. Genuinely conservative Republicans are dismayed by the president's unveiling of his core liberalism and rightly fear for the future of a party which has likely seen its high-water mark already.

But nothing dissuades the Three Monkeys from screeching and howling their enthusiasm for their Dear Leader's every action. They have redefined conservatism to be the actions of one known as a conservative, so the individual is no longer defined by his ideology, the ideology is defined by the individual.

Consider radio host and former WND columnist Hugh Hewitt's take on the president's speech:

Perfect pitch returned tonight, and the president's looks backward and forward were on target. As Chris Matthews observed, it sounded a little LBJ-FDR-like in its vows about the underclass of the recovery region, but that is exactly why it worked so well.

My acquaintances at the nation's leading "conservative" blog, Powerline, agreed:

The president was at his best tonight. Hugh Hewitt's take is on the money. And speaking of money, it's going to be pouring into the Gulf region to the tune of at least $200 billion, I imagine. You can call it FDR-LBJ liberalism, big-government conservatism, or compassionate conservatism. I call it American-style pragmatism.

Unfortunately, celebrating the realization of that which one opposes is the predictable end result of pragmatism, which is nothing more than a euphemism for the slow sacrifice of one's principles. Longtime readers may recall that I wrote the following in 2003:

The Bush administration is demonstrating this truth in real-time, as its compassionate big-government neo-conservatism expands the federal leviathan at a pace faster than anyone since FDR. Would President Gore have been worse? Perhaps – but then there would be an opportunity to elect a man who actually opposed the rising tide of government in 2004 instead of surfing it like a cattle rancher gone beach-boy stoner.

As I feared, that tide has continued to rise under the aegis of a Republican House, Senate, presidency and Supreme Court. So, are there truly no conservatives left in the Republican Party today? Or is the determination to see, hear and speak no evil about the present gang of Republican charlatans in office based on a fear of giving aid and comfort to Hillary Clinton in 2008?

In either case, it is apparent that mainstream politics in America has been reduced to a Seinfeldian sport wherein voters are simply rooting for laundry.

Since the Republican Party has dedicated itself to racing its Democratic rivals in offering more bread and circuses to the underprivileged masses, there is no longer any reason for conservatives to support it. Disenchanted and dismayed Republicans will do well to remember these pragmatic betrayals of conservative principle when The Most Important Election of Our Lifetime rolls around again three years from now.

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Vox Day is a novelist and Christian libertarian. He is a member of the SFWA, Mensa and the Southern Baptist church, and has been down with Madden since 1992. Visit his Web log, Vox Popoli, for daily commentary and responses to reader email.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
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I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party. Oh there's little differences here and there,. The demo's might have a different way to expand government than the repub's, but they both are expanding government They BOTH keep saying our(?) democracy this our democracy that. They both keep FDR's socialistic programs going and expanding. Neither has done anything to return this Country to a Constitutional representative republic.

The heck with constantly electing the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils. is STILL evil. Its like trying to choose between Hitler or Stalin.

Elect statesmen, not politicians.

Constitution Party

1 posted on 09/19/2005 8:10:33 AM PDT by Mikey
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To: Mikey

So we can vote for a party that gets 0.002% of the vote and never get a damn thing we want, right?

There are plenty of good conservatives in the GOP. We will be better served getting them to the forefront of the party than trying to vote for a third party that will never get more votes nationwide than the number of people living in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.


2 posted on 09/19/2005 8:14:36 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Mikey

It's not a coming collapse- it already happened when Congress passed the new Medicare drug entitlement and Bush fell in love with illegal aliens.

Whatever might be left that could be called conservative largely involves largely symbolic issues like the Schiavo controversy. Just a little symbolic red meat to throw to the unsuspecting conservative masses while this country turns into a debt-ridden suburb of Mexico.

I care very little who wins the next election, unless the Republicans nominate someone who will do something about illegal immigration. I already know nobody will be a serious fiscal conservative- those don't exist in Washington with the possible exception of renegades like Coburn.


3 posted on 09/19/2005 8:15:01 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: Mikey

I agree with you. That is why I dropped out of the RINOcrat party and refuse to give them a dime anymore.


4 posted on 09/19/2005 8:15:22 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: Mikey

The premis of the article is the conservative collapse. How is the impending Republican collapse the same as the impending conservative collapse?

Bottom line, liberalism and socialism always fail. In country after country where socialism rules the day, those countries are collapsing from their own weight. In the U.S., those lovely liberal Red States are spiraling downward and forcing their residents to migrate to Red States, a huge demographic shift.

Conservatism collapsing, Bravo Sierra.


5 posted on 09/19/2005 8:15:37 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Mikey
Allow me to be the first to say it....

We're DOOOOOOOOooooommmmed!!!!!!

6 posted on 09/19/2005 8:16:37 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Mikey
Ralph Nader gets more than 300%of the votes that the Constipated party. Can you say irrelevant?

  Presidential
Candidate
Vice Presidential
Candidate
Political
Party
Popular Vote Electoral Vote
B George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 62,040,610 50.73% 286 53.16%
R John Kerry John Edwards Democratic 59,028,439 48.26% 251 46.65%
G Ralph Nader Peter Camejo Independent 463,655 0.38% 0 0.00%
Y Michael Badnarik Richard Campagna Libertarian 397,265 0.32% 0 0.00%
Y Michael Peroutka Chuck Baldwin Constitution 144,499 0.12% 0 0.00%

7 posted on 09/19/2005 8:17:35 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Altair333
It's not a coming collapse- it already happened when Congress passed the new Medicare drug entitlement and Bush fell in love with illegal aliens.

I agree.

I came across a post the other day, by a freeper that appears to have been around for a long time. His post stated, "Conservatives don't care how big government is".

I see comments like this here all the time.

8 posted on 09/19/2005 8:18:46 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Mikey

We are all LBJ liberals now! Bye Bye Conservatives.


9 posted on 09/19/2005 8:21:38 AM PDT by ex-snook (Swapping factories and dollars for cheap goods is lose-lose)
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To: RockinRight
So we can vote for a party that gets 0.002% of the vote and never get a damn thing we want, right?

Are you getting what you want now?

10 posted on 09/19/2005 8:22:25 AM PDT by Protagoras (My liberal neighbor is more dangerous to my freedom than Osama Bin Laden.)
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To: r9etb

So is everyone going to jump ship and vote for the DemocRATS?


11 posted on 09/19/2005 8:22:27 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Altair333
I don't think even most conservatives much care what the size of the federal government is.

This was posted by a long time guy, that's been here since '98.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1484812/posts?page=58#58

12 posted on 09/19/2005 8:22:53 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Mikey

Give my vote to Hillary, you say? No thanks.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 8:24:31 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("Kittens give Morbo gas.")
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To: r9etb
We're DOOOOOOOOooooommmmed!!!!!!

Correct. The only difference is that you aren't the first one to say it.

We were doomed from the very first day. AND, most of those who were instrumental in starting the country knew it. A fair number said so aloud.

There have always been and always will be, authoritarian pukes from both ends of the political spectrum who make sure it cannot work.

14 posted on 09/19/2005 8:27:08 AM PDT by Protagoras (My liberal neighbor is more dangerous to my freedom than Osama Bin Laden.)
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To: Mikey
Vox Day is a novelist and Christian libertarian. He is a member of the SFWA, Mensa and the Southern Baptist church,

Huh? Sounds like a wierd mix to me. Especially the Mensa (eugenics) and the Christian (pro-life, I hope) mix...

15 posted on 09/19/2005 8:27:20 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Mikey

The Constitution Party is trying to do too much at once. What they need to do now is work on getting people elected to local posts, then state posts, and finally the federal posts. As it is, they are just throwing away money in national elections. In short, build up, don't try to be a major party over night. It won't happen. (Note: I voted Constitution Party for several state offices, so I am not unsympathetic).


16 posted on 09/19/2005 8:27:28 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: sarasota
Now that would be smart.

They may not be the best this country can get, but then with the glee the MSM disects anyone who runs for office, why would anyone WANT to run? Leaves the professional politicians.

The best reason to support the Republican's is the supreme court. Vote for the Rat party and we get more Ginsbergs. Put the rats in charge of the senate of congress and we don't have a chance of getting a conservative.

More Ginsbergs and this country is lost and Clinton wins his world-dominated government. I think everyone needs to think clearly on the subject before '06 and rushing out to vote against a Republican candidate.

17 posted on 09/19/2005 8:27:38 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mikey
Ah, here you are again, shilling for the so-called Constitution Party.

I hope you are a paid shill, because the Constitution Party is a business - and their business is taking contributions from frustrated cranks in order to pay themselves for managing "campaigns" that elect no one and will never elect anyone.

18 posted on 09/19/2005 8:28:57 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Black Tooth

I am sorry but the statement about conservatives not caring about size of government is wrong. Republicans might not care, but conservatives do. Republicans and conservatives are not one and the same in their thinking.


19 posted on 09/19/2005 8:29:06 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Altair333

Well I agree that there has been a REAL betrayal by the republican (party) leadership, but there are a few sane fiscal conservatives left in D.C. Take Mike Pence leader of the RSC (basically the COnservative Caucus) in the HoR. He was on television yesterday trying to persuade the President and congress to cut back on big government intitatives and pork-barrel to pay for the Katrina aid :)! Now that is something that is needed! Plus there was a core that voted against the spending bill :)!@
So things are not totoally helpless, especially if we elect someone like Pence, Coburn, Tancredo... to POTUS. In fact my friends are running the -draft Pence- campaing for 08!!


20 posted on 09/19/2005 8:29:39 AM PDT by JSDude1
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