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I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party. Oh there's little differences here and there,. The demo's might have a different way to expand government than the repub's, but they both are expanding government They BOTH keep saying our(?) democracy this our democracy that. They both keep FDR's socialistic programs going and expanding. Neither has done anything to return this Country to a Constitutional representative republic.

The heck with constantly electing the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils. is STILL evil. Its like trying to choose between Hitler or Stalin.

Elect statesmen, not politicians.

Constitution Party

1 posted on 09/19/2005 8:10:33 AM PDT by Mikey
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So we can vote for a party that gets 0.002% of the vote and never get a damn thing we want, right?

There are plenty of good conservatives in the GOP. We will be better served getting them to the forefront of the party than trying to vote for a third party that will never get more votes nationwide than the number of people living in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.


2 posted on 09/19/2005 8:14:36 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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It's not a coming collapse- it already happened when Congress passed the new Medicare drug entitlement and Bush fell in love with illegal aliens.

Whatever might be left that could be called conservative largely involves largely symbolic issues like the Schiavo controversy. Just a little symbolic red meat to throw to the unsuspecting conservative masses while this country turns into a debt-ridden suburb of Mexico.

I care very little who wins the next election, unless the Republicans nominate someone who will do something about illegal immigration. I already know nobody will be a serious fiscal conservative- those don't exist in Washington with the possible exception of renegades like Coburn.


3 posted on 09/19/2005 8:15:01 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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I agree with you. That is why I dropped out of the RINOcrat party and refuse to give them a dime anymore.


4 posted on 09/19/2005 8:15:22 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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The premis of the article is the conservative collapse. How is the impending Republican collapse the same as the impending conservative collapse?

Bottom line, liberalism and socialism always fail. In country after country where socialism rules the day, those countries are collapsing from their own weight. In the U.S., those lovely liberal Red States are spiraling downward and forcing their residents to migrate to Red States, a huge demographic shift.

Conservatism collapsing, Bravo Sierra.


5 posted on 09/19/2005 8:15:37 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Allow me to be the first to say it....

We're DOOOOOOOOooooommmmed!!!!!!

6 posted on 09/19/2005 8:16:37 AM PDT by r9etb
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Ralph Nader gets more than 300%of the votes that the Constipated party. Can you say irrelevant?

  Presidential
Candidate
Vice Presidential
Candidate
Political
Party
Popular Vote Electoral Vote
B George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 62,040,610 50.73% 286 53.16%
R John Kerry John Edwards Democratic 59,028,439 48.26% 251 46.65%
G Ralph Nader Peter Camejo Independent 463,655 0.38% 0 0.00%
Y Michael Badnarik Richard Campagna Libertarian 397,265 0.32% 0 0.00%
Y Michael Peroutka Chuck Baldwin Constitution 144,499 0.12% 0 0.00%

7 posted on 09/19/2005 8:17:35 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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We are all LBJ liberals now! Bye Bye Conservatives.


9 posted on 09/19/2005 8:21:38 AM PDT by ex-snook (Swapping factories and dollars for cheap goods is lose-lose)
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Give my vote to Hillary, you say? No thanks.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 8:24:31 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("Kittens give Morbo gas.")
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Vox Day is a novelist and Christian libertarian. He is a member of the SFWA, Mensa and the Southern Baptist church,

Huh? Sounds like a wierd mix to me. Especially the Mensa (eugenics) and the Christian (pro-life, I hope) mix...

15 posted on 09/19/2005 8:27:20 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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The Constitution Party is trying to do too much at once. What they need to do now is work on getting people elected to local posts, then state posts, and finally the federal posts. As it is, they are just throwing away money in national elections. In short, build up, don't try to be a major party over night. It won't happen. (Note: I voted Constitution Party for several state offices, so I am not unsympathetic).


16 posted on 09/19/2005 8:27:28 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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Ah, here you are again, shilling for the so-called Constitution Party.

I hope you are a paid shill, because the Constitution Party is a business - and their business is taking contributions from frustrated cranks in order to pay themselves for managing "campaigns" that elect no one and will never elect anyone.

18 posted on 09/19/2005 8:28:57 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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the only way ANY third part becomes viable is when the democrat party disapears.

Until then the constitution party means nothing.
It is irrelevant electorially.

You should strive for making the debate between the republican party and your little party. As long as the democrat party exists voting constitution only helps the left.


21 posted on 09/19/2005 8:29:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Vox Day lost me at:

But nothing dissuades the Three Monkeys from screeching and howling their enthusiasm for their Dear Leader's....

That "Dear Leader" schtick is the same worthless ad hominem attack we see from the mouth-breathers at DU.

23 posted on 09/19/2005 8:30:10 AM PDT by XJarhead
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Yep. The alternative is sooo attractive....After all, when they get back in power the liberals will give us Nationwide gay marriage, European/U.N. style Gun control, taxpayer funded Abortion up to and including infanticide, 80% marginal tax rates, socialized medicine, extreme economic down-turn (higher taxes do that), judicial activism to remove the 2nd, 4th, amendments and to remove mention of God in the public arena. (/sarcoff)

Conservative's are far from perfect but they're better than the alternative.

28 posted on 09/19/2005 8:33:41 AM PDT by Mogollon
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"Dear Leader", "evil", wow, that's some way to win an election, Vox Day.

Why not get out on the stump and attack the left and their propagandists?

Why not fan out with the thousands of "true" conservatives and libertarians, and talk to the grassroots at the local and state levels, and win some elections.

Why not take this opportunity of Katrina to educate the public on the fallacy of a federal program, ie, FEMA to save us, and the common sense of having a strong State government, when it comes to an emergency, and move on to the need to have a government close to home, rather that a strong Fed government.

Why not take this idea of huge Federal programs off the table for the public, once and for all, no matter who runs the Feds, it will be huge just by necessity.

Come on, show us what ya got!

We are waiting.
30 posted on 09/19/2005 8:34:48 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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But it is odd that they would take such low hits towards each other. More so on the Democrat side putting out hate message.


32 posted on 09/19/2005 8:35:24 AM PDT by mel
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Once we destroy the Democrat party, we'll get to the infighting, between the three factions, the Libertarians, the Cultural Conservatives, and the republicans.


34 posted on 09/19/2005 8:36:36 AM PDT by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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I posted about this the other day, the votes that I cast might as well have been for democrats because even though they have an R by their name I don't see very many Conservatives around anymore. I'm no longer voting Republican until they clean up their house.


36 posted on 09/19/2005 8:37:51 AM PDT by rattrap
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Haha! What a joke. Always some losers who will twist things to their own short sighted view of the world.


41 posted on 09/19/2005 8:44:12 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Thanks to all those serving.)
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Real conservatives now understand they have been betrayed – badly – by this fraudulent man.

Since the author does not give examples to support his fraudulent claim it is hard for me to take the rest of the article seriously. GWB is WYSIWYG as far as politicians go.

43 posted on 09/19/2005 8:44:52 AM PDT by faq (Click on "faq" page to read "Things you may have forgotten about Iraq.")
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