Iran Readying for Conflict with US (must read)

Benador Associates Via Arab News ^ | September 17, 2005 | Amir Taheri

[Schwaeky]

If I remember correctly, even Saddam Hussein of all people called the Iranian methods barbaric, imagine that... not too surprising since the Nazis considered the Croatian Ustashe NUTS...

[iThinkBig]

"At what point do we get serious? When it’s too late?"

No but half the country are on the left now and I thought you had to have a majority vote in Congress to go to war.

[Schwaeky]

North Korea puts it's nuclear missiles on high alert US takes out one of NK's nuclear facilities, and is showen on TV as a "US Pre-Emptive Nuclear attack" North Korea then launches artellery barrage across the DMZ, destroying Saigan and other border towns.

since when does the DPRK have it in for Vietnam???

[Cacique]

BTT 4 L8R

[VRWCTexan]

That's exactly what Germany did with Poland - i.e. claimed that the Poles had opened up on them, and thus the Germany forces hand no choice but to respond.

Not much of a match between a few thousand brave Poles on horseback against mechanized German forces I truely hope that if Iran starts an invasion of Iraq that GWB will immediately drop a mini-nuke down every bunker in Iran

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Bush's successor acknowledges Iran's new status and sends Bill Clinton, who apologized to Iran for "our past misdeeds" in 2000, to Tehran to offer another formal apology on behalf of Bush's successor and offer Ahmadinejad "a grand bargain".

That's hard to believe! -- that someone would have to send BJ to denounce and apologize for the the U.S. He'd be in a race with the other Democrat ex-president to see who could get there first

[kabar]

LOL. The Iranians couldn't even defeat the Iraqis during their eight year war. It was a standoff with the Iranians suffering greater losses. The Iranians may not be Arabs, but they fight like them.

[LachlanMinnesota]

Seoul???

[F14 Pilot]

I don't think so!

The last thing we want is a war with Iran!

[Red6]

There needs to be NO formal declaration of war for many of our military of our operations.

Examples: Reagan ordering the air strikes on Libya 1981 and again in 1986. Carter did not have congressional approval for sending our troops to Lebanon either.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106281,00.html

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“In 1973 Congress passed the War Powers Act—over presidential veto—to try to limit presidential use of troops without congressional authorization. However, no president has ever acknowledged the constitutionality of the War Powers Act. And the requirements for the president to report to Congress within 48 hours and limit the use of troops to 60 days have never been tested in the courts. The act’s provisions require the following:
• The president must report in writing to Congress within 48 hours after sending troops into a hostile situation.
• Congress must provide for the continuation of the use of troops within 60 days by a formal declaration of war or other statutory authorization.
• If Congress does not authorize the continued use of troops within 60 days, the president must withdraw the troops.
• If Congress passes a concurrent resolution directing the president to remove the troops, he must comply.
Since the War Powers Act was passed, presidents have reported to Congress a number of times—in conflicts with Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, Grenada, and Panama, for example.

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If the president so chooses, he can bomb the crap out of Iran WITHOUT any congressional approval.

Other examples: Clinton. He committed troops without Congressional approval in the Balkans.

Maybe I’m wrong, but if Bush ordered it, we’d bomb Iran tomorrow. Bush does not want to go there, at least not yet.

Red6

[hinckley buzzard]

You should email that picture to the mullahs with a note: "Here's what we do to our own holy shrines. Guess what we'll do to yours..."

[Red6]

Bombing the crap out of them a little does not equate to a major war.

Example: Libya 1981, 1986. We hurt them a little and leave it at that.

What are they going to do? Just like what could Iran do in retaliation? Step up their insurgency in Iraq? No. They're already doing all they can to destabilize Iraq. They really won’t do anything more or different that they already are even if we attack them. In their eyes they are in a state of war against us. They do whatever they can and where they can to hurt us. Us bombing them makes absolutely no difference other than it can help create a “cause and effect” relationship when we deal with them. Suddenly our words and their words have meaning. Suddenly the agreements made become important and are not consistently violated.

Red6

[nw_arizona_granny]

Bump

[Ronzo]

I say let's give it to 'em. A couple of well placed warheads ought to do it.

All of Iran isn't worth the life of a single buck private. Save the boys, send the bombs (the ones with the little nuclear devices in them...)

Iran is long, LONG overdue for a real good butt whippin'

[Skywarner]

"Iran wants war. They feel like if we invade Iran they can get the Muslims and other anti-american countries to fight us."

If history holds true as it so typically does, France will most likely surrender first.

[lowbridge]

Oil prices top $100 and the global economy plunges into a crisis.

Not when we can brew our own:

Shell's Ingenious Approach To Oil Shale Is Pretty Slick

More Good news - Mexico Gulf supply onstream: Shell

[DB]

If the entire Iranian government were to hide in the same bunker it would be a major boon for the US.

You don't have to take out the bunker. Only the bunker's access to the rest of the planet. They die slowly in dark cold hole.

I don't have a problem with that.

[ArmyTeach]

Now I'm scared...

[DB]

It is virtually impossible to protect a large army in the open desert against a modern air force.

They'd be wiped out.

That's the last thing they'd do.

I wonder what it is in the inner workings of their minds that drives them to call us the Great Satan while at the same time believing that the "Great Satan" won't use a few of its ICBMs to quickly end it - definitively.

At this point I'd rather continue to be hated by the world than lose tens of thousands of our people trying to make nice war.