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Iran Readying for Conflict with US (must read)
Benador Associates Via Arab News ^ | September 17, 2005 | Amir Taheri

Posted on 09/17/2005 5:19:33 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

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To: mjtobias; Alas Babylon!

It may be the Arab News, but it's Amir Taheri (an Iranian) writing the article.


61 posted on 09/17/2005 7:01:24 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: tet68
The bunker is several hundred yards from the mosque?
It will be rubble and the mosque will still stand untouched.

Or not, who cares?

Let get those "bunker buster nukes" on line STAT

Regards,
GtG

62 posted on 09/17/2005 7:02:31 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: pierrem15
That's why th MSM are biggest war mongers: by making iberal democracies and especially the United States look weaker than they are they invite further armed conflict.

Amen. Never mind that they live in the best country in the world, free to print their lies and filth. That's not enough. They hate America enough to destroy it AND their cushy way of life. These people aren't only derranged, they really are our enemy just as equally as the terrorists.

63 posted on 09/17/2005 7:05:19 PM PDT by demkicker ((Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?))
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To: bahblahbah
Iran wants war. They feel like if we invade Iran they can get the Muslims and other anti-american countries to fight us. We're in for some interesting times ahead.

I would not be surprised to find out that China is prodding them along in this path. They would love to see it happen.

64 posted on 09/17/2005 7:08:54 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum)
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To: tet68
Well, one thing I want to make perfectly and publicly clear right now, especially to any members of the Iranian government who might be lurking - the U.S. would never, never, never attack such a sacred place as Reza's mosque. Never. It will be perfectly safe for the Iranian government to pack everyone in there because we'd never, never attack it. In fact, they'd be advised to pack everyone in there and tell the world about it, because we'd NEVER attack the place.

Heh heh...

65 posted on 09/17/2005 7:09:15 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: F14 Pilot
The Islamic Republic is a fragile structure in a zone of political earthquakes. Logically, the last thing it should want is war. Nevertheless, former President Muhammad Khatami has warned that Tehran may be boxing itself into a position in which it will either have to surrender or fight.

Khatami's a smart guy - why would he say something like this?

66 posted on 09/17/2005 7:18:32 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: StarCMC
Things must be worse for the mullahs than we thought. Whenever your country is in the toilet, blame someone else to the point where you can justify a big military buildup. All of the marching and arming and rushing around is an attempt to distract the populace. I doubt it will work this time. Iran might be ready to become a democracy as we speak. That thought did occur to me as I was reading this.
67 posted on 09/17/2005 7:22:20 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Thunder90
"North Korea then launches artellery barrage across the DMZ, destroying Saigan and other border towns.

How did Vietnam get involved in this?

68 posted on 09/17/2005 7:23:08 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: 2111USMC

Vietnam got involved due to the domino theory.


69 posted on 09/17/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by PlanoMike
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To: SE Mom

What do our soldiers say about the mindset of people in that part of the world?


71 posted on 09/17/2005 7:43:34 PM PDT by defenderSD (At half past midnight, the ghost of Vince Foster wanders through the West Wing.)
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To: GOPJ

"Khatami's a smart guy - why would he say something like this?"

I think he's still ticked off about the election and not happy about the general direction the country is going in.


72 posted on 09/17/2005 7:45:48 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: F14 Pilot

Excellent post! Ever since Ahmadinejad was elected I've felt that this is going on full speed over there.


73 posted on 09/17/2005 7:56:29 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: tet68
"If they call for the overthrow of the elected head of government, it will be alright to shoot them."

Finally!

74 posted on 09/17/2005 7:58:47 PM PDT by yooling (I don't have anything nice to say...)
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To: SE Mom

"One common thread I've heard in conversations with soldiers who've been to Iraq is that we in the West simply cannot grasp the mindset of people in that part of the world. SImple as it is- it's the only explanation for the idea that Iran can actually contemplate going to war with us."

We don't understand their mindset. We in America of free markets expect that you get loyalty back from billion dollar clients. But do we get that from the Arabs? NO!


75 posted on 09/17/2005 8:04:16 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: F14 Pilot

"The diplomatic tussle over Iran's nuclear plans goes to the Security Council that will fail to take a decision thanks to Russian and Chinese vetoes."

This is going to be a reality. If China and Russia were our friends, as some think, they would back us up and make sure Iran did not build nukes. But since they are not, they would love to go and see us burn our military resources on Iran.


76 posted on 09/17/2005 8:07:43 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: BenLurkin

Without being "Read on" as to the true IADS capabilities of Iran, I'd say that unless they got a serious boost in the last few years/months, we'd have no trouble operating over their airspace when and where we want especially if certain allies come along.

That said, I believe that under today’s threat level, load on our forces, budgetary restrictions, and the pain level that our allies themselves can endure, an "Air-campaign" Serbia style is about the most we should go for. No large scale ground operations.

But then again what more could you want? We can do a lot from the air/sea. Enough at least to get the point across that if Iran does not comply we can make them pay a huge price. We need to create that association that there is a price for not following agreements, stalling, and playing games.

Iran has learned that there is no price or consequence when the lie, cheat or steal. What have the Europeans done so far when Iran did not follow through on its word? Nothing. Iran will make one hollow promise after the other, knowing already before hand that they never intend to abide to their own word. But this appeases the Europeans, even some in the US and it is difficult to argue for a military option when the enemy has mastered the art of “stalling” as well as Iran.

In light of today’s US military, political, and economic burden through wars in the Middle East, Caucasus and North Africa, I believe that an opening salvo of air strikes with further options for follow on missions needs to happen. Strike High Valued Targets. Go after the toys which this regime cherishes. Be a bully! Step into their sand box and break their favorite toys. Then step back and ask politely, “Are you willing to listen now?” If not, break some more. In the process of creating this association “cause and affect”, you can collect Intel, slow their WMD program, and degrade their IADS as well. Our cost and toll in life should be low.

At what point do we get serious? When it’s too late?

Red6


77 posted on 09/17/2005 8:13:10 PM PDT by Red6
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To: F14 Pilot
The US is also expected to shrink from attacks against the Mash'had bunker for fear of collateral damage to the "holy shrine" of the imam a few hundred yards away.

Cathedrals were torn to shreds in WW II. It is time the United States starts fighting wars to win instead of playing games.

78 posted on 09/17/2005 8:13:56 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: GOPJ

"Khatami's a smart guy - why would he say something like this?"

Khatami was a smart guy. He was trying to persuade the mad mullahs that a showdown with the rest would just result in their own destruction. Notice that he is now FORMER president.


79 posted on 09/17/2005 8:14:53 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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ping


80 posted on 09/17/2005 8:15:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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