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Child's afterschool tantrum thwarts officer
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 17, 2005 | ALEX LEARY and THOMAS C. TOBIN

Posted on 09/17/2005 2:30:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

ST. PETERSBURG - A girl, upset over a tetherball game, throws a tantrum during an afterschool program at Fairmount Park Elementary. She stomps on a table, tears things from the wall, pushes a television off a stand.

It's a strikingly familiar scene.

Six months ago, St. Petersburg police made international news by handcuffing a tempestuous Fairmount kindergartener as a video camera rolled.

Last week, police were called to the school again. This time, the officer stood and watched, waiting for the girl's father to arrive.

"He was totally powerless. What's he going to do? Grab her? Handcuff her?" Sgt. Phil Quandt, the officer's supervisor, said Friday. "It'll be like the 5-year-old all over again."

Quandt, also a union official, said new rules created in the outrage that followed the handcuffing have now left police afraid to act. "It needs to be vague enough where our officers, when faced with whatever threat, are able to adequately respond," he said.

The officer's hands-off approach to the Sept. 9 incident - which came to light on Friday - reflects a new policy not to use restraints unless the child is armed or considered violent. The officer acted properly, police spokesman Bill Proffitt said.

Quandt, however, thinks the officer should have felt free to prevent the girl from wrecking the room and perhaps hurting herself. But he understands the officer's reluctance.

The incident also raises fresh questions about who is responsible for the safety of children after class is over, exposing a gray area in the newly forged understanding between police and the school district.

The 8-year-old girl who acted up last week goes to Hamilton Disston School in Gulfport, for children who are severely emotionally disturbed or who have other disabilities such as speech or vision impairments. After school, she is bused to Fairmount for R'Club, a nonprofit learning program.

R'Club operates at Fairmount and more than two dozen other schools in Pinellas. Though it coordinates with the school district on curriculum, the program is independently run and financed.

The call to police last Friday came about 4:20 p.m. The girl got upset after playing tetherball, hit a boy, then kicked off her shoes and stormed out of school, said Art O'Hara, executive director of R'Club. A supervisor called St. Petersburg police, fearing for the girl's safety.

By the time Officer Michael Gattarello Jr. arrived, a club worker had coaxed the girl back to the school. When she saw the police car, O'Hara said, she got frightened and began terrorizing the room. About 60 other students were ushered outside.

The girl, O'Hara noted, was familiar with police since an officer returned her to school about three weeks ago after she ran away.

Gattarello, following the new guidelines, called a sergeant and asked that schools police be called to handle the situation. But those officers stop working at 4 p.m. on Fridays, as opposed to 10 p.m. on other weekdays.

"I continued to stand by while (the girl) tore up the area and awaited her parents' arrival," the officer wrote in a report.

With 19 officers to police the district's 50,000 elementary students, the school force is spread decidedly thin. Still, schools police Chief Tom Gavin said that is not a factor in Friday hours; rather, he said, there are no school programs at that time.

Since R'Club is an independent organization, would school police be responsible anyway?

"That's where the gray area is," said school district spokesman Ron Stone.

Superintendent Clayton Wilcox said his initial impression was that R'Club is responsible for handling such situations after school hours, but he added he wasn't sure about the details. He said the district is taking a look at its agreement with R'Club to see whether it covers this situation. He said he also wants to know more about the training level of R'Club employees.

When the district changed its procedures in the wake of the 5-year-old's handcuffing, a situation like this was not contemplated, Wilcox said. Under the change, district employees are not to call city police for a misbehaving child who is 9 years old or younger or who is in third grade or lower. The only exceptions are when safety is an issue, such as when a student has a weapon.

Police Chief Chuck Harmon was unavailable for comment Friday.

Wilcox said it could be argued that R'Club employees are agents of the district and subject to the same rules and procedures, but he did not know.

"This has given us a little pause," he said. "We're going to look at it real hard first thing Monday morning and see what we can learn.'

Noting that no one was hurt, he said of the incident, "I think it ended as well as it could have ended."

Alex Leary can be reached at 727 893-8472 or leary@sptimes.com


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KEYWORDS: discipline; education; lawenforcement
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Terrorists will have to wait. We need to be saved from lawyers.
1 posted on 09/17/2005 2:30:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is the sort of crap our society can look forward to thanks to the lawsuit-happy Leftists and the jackwits who deem all corporal punishment to be "child abuse."

If I'd acted like the kids in this article, my butt would have glowed in the dark by the time my parents were through with me.

2 posted on 09/17/2005 2:35:48 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is the kind of thing that makes anyone in their right mind NOT want to become a police officer.

Unfortunately, that means the slack will have to be taken up by people who are not in their right mind.


3 posted on 09/17/2005 2:38:07 AM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Brazen Rule.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Terrorists will have to wait. We need to be saved from lawyers.

And, by extension, from our children.

4 posted on 09/17/2005 2:38:56 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (THIS IS WAR AND I MEAN TO WIN IT.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hmmmmm..I am thiking we take all of these little hellions and let them loose in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. That would be a hoot!


5 posted on 09/17/2005 2:42:22 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Prime Choice
I attended parochial school. My butt would have been glowing before my parents arrived!
6 posted on 09/17/2005 2:42:29 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I sure am glad my kids are grown and no longer subject to this madness.


7 posted on 09/17/2005 2:42:56 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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"reflects a new policy not to use restraints unless the child is armed or considered violent."

Ok, she hit a boy, and was tearing things from walls, standing on tables, and she had to be returned 3 weeks earlier because she had ran away from school. If this isn't violent, and possibly self destructive behavior, then I don't know what is...put the kid in cuffs and make her sit there until dad arrives. I think dad should be footing the bill for all the damage also.
8 posted on 09/17/2005 2:43:35 AM PDT by codyjacksmom (I've gone out to find myself... if I get back before I return, please keep me here!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Constitution Day; TheBigB
A girl, upset over a tetherball game, throws a tantrum during an afterschool program at Fairmount Park Elementary. She stomps on a table, tears things from the wall, pushes a television off a stand.

Someone needs to join the Happy Hands Club.

9 posted on 09/17/2005 2:46:21 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: codyjacksmom; All

I know.

I'm just (((shaking))) my head.


10 posted on 09/17/2005 2:46:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Charge the full bill to the parent, for the repairs, damage, teachers time, officer's time, and a $5000 per incident "poor parenting" charge. Require parenting classes. Waive the $5000 if they sign a Spank My Kid permission slip ahead of time.
11 posted on 09/17/2005 2:48:49 AM PDT by konaice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Isn't this is the same school that's being sued because a little boy ran away from teachers, earlier this year, ran into the street and was killed when hit by a car?

Then they're being sued by the woman who's kid was handcuffed.

Looks like there's no end to their problems.


12 posted on 09/17/2005 2:49:58 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What utter P.C. nonsense.

The little monster should have been dealt with......and NO video cameras around.


13 posted on 09/17/2005 2:50:35 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Prime Choice

Thank you!

A teacher with a 12" wooden ruler should've been able to solve that problem.


14 posted on 09/17/2005 2:53:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: dawn53

Yes.


15 posted on 09/17/2005 2:58:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No mention of the girl's age or a mother.

No mention of the type and location of injury on the boy she hit.

No mention of the value of destroyed items in the classroom.

No mention of a requirement that the father pay for the damages.

No mention of how the girl behaved when her father showed up.

Journalism remedial courses recommended for this reporter.

16 posted on 09/17/2005 3:01:35 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

this is now SOP with some mentally ill. If they are not and IMMEDIATE danger to self and others, no one can touch them.


17 posted on 09/17/2005 3:07:05 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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To: Prime Choice

Your butt would have probably been glowing way before your parents got to school. At least, when i was in school, mine would have been.


18 posted on 09/17/2005 3:08:28 AM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: Carolinamom
Journalism remedial courses recommended for this reporter.

Bosh.

The reporter is "being objective"

/sarc

19 posted on 09/17/2005 3:24:24 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Prime Choice
...but you were not like the "kids" in the article.

The 8-year-old girl who acted up last week goes to Hamilton Disston School in Gulfport, for children who are severely emotionally disturbed or who have other disabilities such as speech or vision impairments. After school, she is bused to Fairmount for R'Club, a nonprofit learning program.

20 posted on 09/17/2005 3:32:08 AM PDT by yoe
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