You mean the backwards Swastika?
Posted on 09/15/2005 10:46:04 AM PDT by conserv13
"What's up with your shirt?"
Those are the words a former senior at Fleming Island High School remembers hearing as he walked from his fifth-period algebra class toward the gym. The 18-year-old, who is not being identified due to his family's concerns of safety, had just taken off his Dixie Outfitter T-shirt, exposing a highly offensive shirt.
"What about it?" replied the 18-year-old, skinny and white.
"Well, you know it's racial," said a black student, now in a group confronting the 18-year-old.
"Yeah. So?"
The undershirt the white student wore had a confederate flag on the front with the words "Keep it flying." On the back, a cartoon depicted a group of hooded Klansmen standing outside a church, waving to two others who had just pulled away in a car reading "Just married."
Two black men in nooses were being dragged behind.
Upset by the shirt, a 17-year-old black student hit the white student in the head. A crowd of about 100 students gathered to watch the Aug. 29 fight before authorities intervened.
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Trisham,
thanks for the welcome. I have not been to work in weeks..... ;-)
I love this forum and the seemingly very bright people here. I am glad they let me in.
"Basically, yeah. He just thought it wasn't right that those guys could beat the hell out of him just becauase he had racist crud on this wall. My CO and I disabused him of that notion."
hoooooraahhh!
You mean the backwards Swastika?
That is too funny! good story.
For his own safety...
I have no way of knowing the answer to that question. You may get a better understanding of what I meant by reading the rest of the post.
The point was that this kid reacted to a threat against his race in a different manner than patriots react to threats of those who act to damage their country. The kid's inclusion in the first example doesn't exclude him from being a member of the comparison group of the second example.
The guards at Andersonville died of malnutrition and disease in large numbers, just as the inmates did.
Simply put, Andersonville Prison was the fifth largest city in the South during its last year of existence and it was completely cut off from supplies.
The Confederacy did not voluntarily withhold food or medicine from its prisoners.
I know of one man' account who was captured and the Yankees cut the back out of his newly acquired jacket before sending him and his twin brother to Elmira, NY. He survived, but his brother froze to death. His account was the men would huddle in a mass and the ones who were sickly or too weak and couldn't force their way into the inner of the mass would freeze to death. The men were left exposed to the North's winter weather.
The North had the resources - they just didn't care.
Like my dad always said "You know the fight was over before it started and who the winner was when the buff guy said 'hiyah!'"
The point is still that is still immoral to punch someone because you don't like what was said or displayed. That is all I'm saying.
Since Vietnam, we soldiers have been called "baby killers", but I would never react to someone calling me one by punching them- even though it would take quite a bit of constraint to do so. I have been in the Army for 21 years and it is very offensive to hear that- especially during the last presidential election campaign season. I certainly wouldn't expect a free pass on the assault charge if I were to hit someone.
By the way: why do you use the term "sleeping bear"? Do you mean "black bear"? And, isn't that a bit of a freudian slip? ;-)
Nam Vet
You need to review what he really said. It wasn't just an opinion of someone else- it was ALL WHITE people. It was also President Bush. He accused soldiers (presumably white) of having orders to shoot them (black people). That is not just an opinion.
Interesting information. So, this does give us legal rights to pummel the left?
Valid point about the difference. I should have used a better analogy.
I'm surprised this was from Dixie Outfitters. (Betcha their biz is tanking right about now.)
To me, it sounds really anti-American. Putting a flag next to a young white church-married couple lynching blacks is pure left-wing fantasy. Is this really from Dixie Outfitters? Somebody should check with them before we get hysterical. I bet the kid is a lefty and his message was misinterpreted.
No. I meant the term just as I wrote it. The white guy already provoked a dangerous situation by eluding to the murder of blacks, then escalated the conflict with further denigrating remarks. A sleeping bear will let you take one jab - or even a few, but you'd best not linger when it's fully aroused.
You are absolutely correct- there is a huge difference....to you. I don't like it. I find it very offensive and degrading. The black kid could have shown he was better than the moron by ignoring him. I don't think the drawing on his t-shirt urged people to get married. Do you? Or, did it urge people to go to church? The message you are hung up on (pun unintentional. really) is the lynching. As abhorrent as the display was, it doesn't justify the assault.
(I wish there was a way to get inflection in text)
No! The shirt is not one made by Dixie Outftters! The offensive shirt depicting lynchings was underneath one made by Dixie Outftters.
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