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Fox News Just Said Federal Judge says Pledge "Un-Constitutional"

Posted on 09/14/2005 11:02:25 AM PDT by nov7freedomday

Just heard on top of the hour on Fox News Radio


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; americanflag; antiamerican; antitheist; churchandstate; constitution; flag; government; judicialactivism; newdow; ninthcircuit; pledge; ruling; schools; unconstitutional; undergod
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To: Congressman Billybob
If not, Congress will slap them all down with a jurisdiction-stripping law

Which could set an extremely dangerous precedent. Think about that type of power in the hands of liberals.

441 posted on 09/14/2005 4:15:48 PM PDT by jess35
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To: La Enchiladita
Here's another one: Don't hurt yourself back-pedaling.

*sigh*

Another know-it-all with psychic abilities. You may want to put your talent to use and scan the mind of someone who cares.
442 posted on 09/14/2005 4:15:58 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Proud member of the 21st century Christian Crusaders)
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To: softwarecreator

To be honest, I don't know anyone who has fought and died to protect a modified form of our original pledge.


443 posted on 09/14/2005 4:17:30 PM PDT by jess35
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To: reagan_fanatic

"You may want to put your talent to use and scan the mind of
someone who cares."
Good one..Coffee of keyboard good. LMAO..


444 posted on 09/14/2005 4:19:23 PM PDT by PositiveCogins
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To: conserv13

I believe that's correct.


445 posted on 09/14/2005 4:26:39 PM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: La Enchiladita

wow..you say some really odd things... non-sequiter much?


446 posted on 09/14/2005 4:47:00 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Smartass

So...he's a Carter appointee.

I'm not surprised.

Thanks for the info.


447 posted on 09/14/2005 4:52:25 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Virtute et armis" - By valor and arms)
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To: Happy2BMe

Beg pardon, how is it that taking something from being mandatory (to say the real pledge you must affirm capital G-o-d, [something that isn't "any god" any more than your neighbor coincidentally named Jehovah is a biblical figure] in other words, this is essentailly denying the feeling of Americanism to those who do not follow one of the Abrahamic religions, whereas adding God is taking something deistically neutral and giving an element of spirtuality to it- something that can be done by choice) to optional is losing rights?


448 posted on 09/14/2005 5:09:42 PM PDT by Aurric dihydrogen oxide (Yes, I'm a conservative- maybe not your type but I am a conservative. Deal with it.)
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To: so_real
I don't understand your comment ... this country was not founded on the Constitution ... it simply describes how men in this country will govern one another ...

And this decision concerns permissible actions by government...based on what is allotted to them by our primary legal document. The one that is used by the Judicial Branch to judge the validity of legislation.
449 posted on 09/14/2005 5:18:01 PM PDT by Borges
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To: All

"Under God" doesn't even imply a religion. How does the separation bit even apply?
Won't allow prayer in school and yet they think it is perfectly fine to allow muslims their own prayer rooms? I believe that is someewhere in california.
Stop screwing with this country!!!
The devil considers these guys his fans.


450 posted on 09/14/2005 6:04:03 PM PDT by jackv
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To: Borges

The basis of our being a country indepedent of Great Britain is that we are given by our Creator certain inalienable rights. . .
If we deny this as a LEGAL principle, then we deny the LEGAL basis of our rights.
We can, certainly, found a country based on other philosophies--for example, on a Darwinian struggle of the survival of the fittest.
But we have chosen to say that all men are 'created' equal, this is the basis of their equality,
so that is what we have as a LEGAL basis of our rights.
Go ahead and overturn that, and then enjoy trying to find another basis for 'equality' of all men (we are inherently NOT equal in any material sense)


451 posted on 09/14/2005 6:05:58 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: nov7freedomday

Slime judge who doesn't know his job description.


452 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:15 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: Spunky

What a bag of dirt!


453 posted on 09/14/2005 6:36:45 PM PDT by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: nov7freedomday

454 posted on 09/14/2005 6:54:11 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: La Enchiladita
I love FR it is a ray of light in a state that has lost its mind.

Someone stated early that 6.7 million Liberals voted for Kerry in 2004 so I guess that makes me right 6.7 million times when I say there is a freak show going on there.

LA? a rat hole that claims it is part of Mexico.

San FranFreakshow speaks for itself.

The Cal. border with Mexico is an open door and Cal. politicians refuse to lift a finger to stop it.

Home of the 9th Circuit Court which is by far the worst offender of the Constitution and supporter of every wacko Liberal desire that appears before them, judicial activism at its worst.

You name it, if it is on the Liberal agenda it started in Cal.

May we find more common ground on a future thread.
455 posted on 09/14/2005 7:19:41 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: TheForceOfOne; MineralMan

have you ever been to Calif?......most of the people here outside of LA and SF are some of the finest folk around.....and north of SF and the central valley look like any other state with blue collar workers and good Christian folk......bashing the state in total shows either a jealousy or igorance......you choose


456 posted on 09/14/2005 7:25:46 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: nov7freedomday

Why don't they just find a judge to rule that America itself is un-Constitutional.


457 posted on 09/14/2005 7:26:36 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: NorCalRepub

I'm sure they're fine people there, the cities and the politics bring the state down, the rest suffer. How's that?


458 posted on 09/14/2005 7:29:57 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Dawsonville_Doc; reagan_fanatic

......and least anyone forget.....where do these people think the majority of nuclear weapons were developed....right here in Calif.....or New Mexico in which the facility was run by......oh my.....the University of Calif System........hmmmmm.......can we have our nukes back please......


459 posted on 09/14/2005 7:30:29 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: TheForceOfOne

thanks......I like that a whole lot better......most people who have not been here think Calif is only SF and LA....not true.....and hell, I remember when it was more or less conservative....I will accept half the blame for the whackos here.....but remember....alot of these whacko's moved to Calif in the 60s and 70s from back east....many of them......have a great night


460 posted on 09/14/2005 7:35:11 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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