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Gulf Coast Isn't the Only Thing Left in Tatters; Bush's Status With Blacks Takes Hit
NY Times ^ | 9/12/05 | Elisabeth Bumiller

Posted on 09/12/2005 2:52:23 AM PDT by Crackingham

From the political perspective of the White House, Hurricane Katrina destroyed more than an enormous swath of the Gulf Coast. The storm also appears to have damaged the carefully laid plans of Karl Rove, President Bush's political adviser, to make inroads among black voters and expand the reach of the Republican Party for decades to come.

Many African-Americans across the country said they seethed as they watched the television pictures of the largely poor and black victims of Hurricane Katrina dying for food and water in the New Orleans Superdome and the convention center. A poll released last week by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center bore out that reaction as well as a deep racial divide: Two-thirds of African-Americans said the government's response to the crisis would have been faster if most of the victims had been white, while 77 percent of whites disagreed.

The anger has invigorated the president's critics. Kanye West, the rap star, raged off-script at a televised benefit for storm victims that "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said in Miami last week that Americans "have to come to terms with the ugly truth that skin color, age and economics played a significant role in who survived and who did not."

At the White House, the public response has been to denounce the critics as unseemly and unfair. "I think all of those remarks were disgusting, to be perfectly frank," Laura Bush said in an interview with the American Urban Radio Network, when asked about the comments of Mr. West and Mr. Dean. "Of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: GOPJ
Like the really bad marriage where everyone sighs and concluded "they deserve each other", we must step away.

The analogy of the "bad marriage" is a very apt one.

The problem is that this lousy relationship affects our entire society, just the way a bad marriage affects the rest of the family, the neighbors and even police. Remember, a domestic violence call is one of the most dangerous calls there is for a police officer.

We had an international perception of a breakdown in US society - why? Because of the behavior of a tiny but disproportionately influential group of people. Like a bad marriage, they are damaging all of the society around them.

The problem is, of course, that the only people who can stop this are the Dems and the blacks themselves. Actually, the only people who can stop it are blacks, because they are individuals and can change, while the Dem party can't change because it has been this way since its inception. Blacks have to step away from the Dem party, and they have to start taking responsibility for their lives again. That's a pretty tall order, and they need leadership to do it. And therein lies the problem...

41 posted on 09/12/2005 4:49:35 AM PDT by livius
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To: brwnsuga; the_rightside
" Black Community "

I always cringe when I hear this. I don't really know what that means. I know there is a Chinese community in San Francisco, and I know some "poor communities" (redneck towns in the Hill Country), but I don't see a whole lot of "black community," especially in the images of looting.

Community implies neighbors and knowing them and caring for them. Community does not mean "your property is now communal because nobody is looking!"

In my case, (my statistically insignificant sample of me!) the only black people I know and hang out with are in my socio-economic level (or above me.) And they don't "cavort" with any black community that they ever speak of any more than I hang out with german-americans because they have blue eyes and bad tempers like me.

Non of this really means anything, just making an observation that I made once when I was pummeled by some NoCal libs when I said "the only black people I know in Texas are richer than me." They responded that they knew black people and that they volunteered many hours driving to Oakland to work in "the black community" and that I as an angry white man knew nothing about "the black community."

I thought that was ironic, and it still makes me think "the black community" is a ridiculous (if not belittling) concept.

42 posted on 09/12/2005 4:50:44 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Crackingham

Luckily for the media and the dumb dems Bush ain't running again. If he was running again, he would be doing all it takes to regain any lost standing with the public and would win reelection.


43 posted on 09/12/2005 4:52:50 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Crackingham
Early on after the hurricane, the news crews were going through the crowd outside the Superdome and they found a middle-aged black woman who had a message for George Bush. She took off her sunglasses and looked right into the camera so George Bush could look right into her eyes and in her best jive-laden street lingo. she did that shoulder and cocked jaw, wagging-the-finger thing that black women do so well and said that she won't NEVAHHH vote fo' dat George Bush agin!

I'm not too sure what the news channel was trying to convey but I would have hoped that they would have informed her that George Bush wasn't going to be running for anything anymore.

44 posted on 09/12/2005 4:53:35 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: brwnsuga
need to open their eyes to the fact that their support has done nothing for the Black Community....

It is precisely this "support" which has, over the years; extracted the father from the family unit, and worst of all, deprived recipients of their dignity and their faith in their own abilities.

45 posted on 09/12/2005 5:05:41 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Fenris6

It would be the one big opportunity for them.


46 posted on 09/12/2005 5:10:22 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: Crackingham

The New York Times believes all black people are stupid enough to believe their Sht.


47 posted on 09/12/2005 5:11:40 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Crackingham

Sorry, you can't lose something you never had.


48 posted on 09/12/2005 5:11:56 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: colonialhk

Bush's popularity rising!


49 posted on 09/12/2005 5:12:30 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: Phlap
Right. I guess they hope this will hurt Republicans as a whole. What happens when 90% of a group of people vote for one party is that your vote has far less power. Why would Pubbies be worried they might lose 1/2 of one percent of the black vote, nation wide, over Katrina?

My guess, however, is that this will actually drive black voters to the Republicans. The Dems see all black voters as the people in NO when that is so far from the truth. If Master P can see that West was probably just trying to hype a new record than I am sure most others do too.

Once everything shakes loose it will be obvious that Nagin and Blanco shoulder the blame. The worst problem is the medias ignorance or just plain Pravda like ways of ignoring the truth. Chris Mathews recently asked a question like "Shouldn't there be one face, like a person, who is the face of this recovery, who we see as in charge of this whole thing?" I just wish some would say "There should be Chris and her name is Governor Blanco, she just isn't anywhere to be found. The reason we always see Jeb Bush on TV whenever a disaster hits Florida isn't because he's the Presidents brother, but because he is the Governor of Florida and knows what his responsibility is to Florida, you jack ass."

50 posted on 09/12/2005 5:12:45 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Crackingham

The drum beat continues. No one is listening.


51 posted on 09/12/2005 5:12:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: Crackingham

Who takes the NYT bathhouse boys seriously?


52 posted on 09/12/2005 5:15:20 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Crackingham
Written by a typical wacko hate monger.. check this out , she was tapped earlier.. http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:QCJxfCQ4GCQJ:www.timeswatch.org/articles/2004/1018.asp+Elisabeth+Bumiller&hl=en&client=firefox-a
53 posted on 09/12/2005 5:21:38 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: sam_paine
"I thought that was ironic, and it still makes me think "the black community" is a ridiculous (if not belittling) concept."

I hate when people use that term also. Sadly I've often seen it used here. Comments like, "if they keep choosing leaders like Jesse and Al...", make me cringe every time I hear it. There are many Black conservatives in this country and fortunately we'll soon be seeing more run for state and national office.

54 posted on 09/12/2005 5:36:39 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Congressman Billybob

Morning CBB,
President Bush lost nothing from the educated blacks who woke up and left the DNC plantation.

The hoodwinked will continue to support the liberal's lefts' communist agenda.

The reality is, I am tired of the NOLA getting their butts kissed for lawless conduct and a crybaby attitude.

MS was hit far worse than the NOLA crowd and everyone in my area will not contribute to unappreciative government sugar tit recipients.

Those idiots in NOLA best realize anarchists regardless of race or creed are not welcome in the real America.

The NOLA Klowns have only Nagin, Blanco, Landrieu and themselves to blame for not evacuating. The buses were there and Nagin failed to utilize them to look after his constituents.

President Bush is being too gracious with those pomopous idiots who will spit in his face, if given the chance. They(to whom it fits) feel someone owes them everything in life and blames others for their misfortunes in upward social mobility.

I do not know of any one much poorer than I when growing up. Despite obstacles in my path I obtained the American Dream.

I ask why others' never try to better themselves and seek to bite the hand that feeds them?

Maybe one day they will stop licking the shoes and butts of the poverty pimps(jesse&al&calypso louie).

The opportunity to succeed in life is there for the taking. However one cannot sit on their ass, put on their shades, light up a Kool and proclaim this is the Promise Land.

Maybe Janet Jackson should have changed the title of her old song "What Have You Done For Yourself Lately!!! Instead of, "What Have You Done For Me Lately."

In closing President lost nothing and gained in unifying intelligent voters, who will not tolerate anarchy and reverse race hatred.

Words from the street,
NSNR-CSAOTL










55 posted on 09/12/2005 5:46:05 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: tet68
The NYT is a self fulfilling prophesy.

The New York Times is a self fulfilling fallacy....

56 posted on 09/12/2005 5:47:35 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker
"The NYT is a self fulfilling prophesy."

"The New York Times is a self fulfilling fallacy...."

The New York Times is a self fulfilling Phallicy........

57 posted on 09/12/2005 5:50:50 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: Crackingham
"seethed as they watched the television pictures of the largely poor and black victims of Hurricane Katrina dying for food and water in the New Orleans Superdome and the convention center."

There were pictures of black people dying in the superdome? Is that correct? I know there were some deaths... at least one man committed suicide and a child was murdered either in the Superdome or at the convention center. Not sure what the other deaths were. But, I didn't see anyone dying and I don't think any blacks did either.

I know there were a lot of very uncomfortable people in the Superdome due to conditions there. We learn now, well after the fact, and after Bush and FEMA have been blamed for their condition, that the real first responsers, Red Cross and Salvation Army relief workers were prevented from alleviating the conditions in the superdome in order to MAKE the people housed there uncomfortable in an effort to make them evacuate.

We heard the ultimate in this media hyperbole when the MSM reported Randal Robinson statements that conditions were so bad in New Orleans that blacks were resorting to cannibalism after three days...

This has been a media circus from the start... great entertainment... When the final chapter is written we will find that given the magnitude of the storm and the damage done that the overall effort was pretty successful despite the ineptitude of the local and state authorities...
58 posted on 09/12/2005 6:09:04 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Rebelbase
Midgets are affected too.


GEORGE BUSH HATES SHORT PEOPLE!

Another vital voting block lost.

59 posted on 09/12/2005 6:15:19 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Crackingham

Is Elizabeth Bumiller the same person who said she would get on her knees and service Bill Clinton just for keeping abortion legal?


60 posted on 09/12/2005 6:25:17 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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