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We had to kill our patients
The Daily Mail ^ | 09/11/2005 | CAROLINE GRAHAM and JO KNOWSLEY

Posted on 09/11/2005 2:36:06 PM PDT by kenth

Doctors working in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans killed critically ill patients rather than leaving them to die in agony as they evacuated hospitals, The Mail on Sunday can reveal. With gangs of rapists and looters rampaging through wards in the flooded city, senior doctors took the harrowing decision to give massive overdoses of morphine to those they believed could not make it out alive.

In an extraordinary interview with The Mail on Sunday, one New Orleans doctor told how she 'prayed for God to have mercy on her soul' after she ignored every tenet of medical ethics and ended the lives of patients she had earlier fought to save.

Her heart-rending account has been corroborated by a hospital orderly and by local government officials. One emergency official, William 'Forest' McQueen, said: "Those who had no chance of making it were given a lot of morphine and lain down in a dark place to die."

Euthanasia is illegal in Louisiana, and The Mail on Sunday is protecting the identities of the medical staff concerned to prevent them being made scapegoats for the events of last week.

Their families believe their confessions are an indictment of the appalling failure of American authorities to help those in desperate need after Hurricane Katrina flooded the city, claiming thousands of lives and making 500,000 homeless.

'These people were going to die anyway'

The doctor said: "I didn't know if I was doing the right thing. But I did not have time. I had to make snap decisions, under the most appalling circumstances, and I did what I thought was right.

"I injected morphine into those patients who were dying and in agony. If the first dose was not enough, I gave a double dose. And at night I prayed to God to have mercy on my soul."

The doctor, who finally fled her hospital late last week in fear of being murdered by the armed looters, said: "This was not murder, this was compassion. They would have been dead within hours, if not days. We did not put people down. What we did was give comfort to the end.

"I had cancer patients who were in agony. In some cases the drugs may have speeded up the death process.

"We divided patients into three categories: those who were traumatised but medically fit enough to survive, those who needed urgent care, and the dying.

"People would find it impossible to understand the situation. I had to make life-or-death decisions in a split second.

"It came down to giving people the basic human right to die with dignity.

"There were patients with Do Not Resuscitate signs. Under normal circumstances, some could have lasted several days. But when the power went out, we had nothing.

"Some of the very sick became distressed. We tried to make them as comfortable as possible.

"The pharmacy was under lockdown because gangs of armed looters were roaming around looking for their fix. You have to understand these people were going to die anyway."

Mr McQueen, a utility manager for the town of Abita Springs, half an hour north of New Orleans, told relatives that patients had been 'put down', saying: "They injected them, but nurses stayed with them until they died."

Mr McQueen has been working closely with emergency teams and added: "They had to make unbearable decisions."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; eugenics; euthanasia; katrina; superdome
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To: kenth

Let's see. Raped little girls, bodies in excrement, cannibalism. Now this.

It MUST be true, I read about it in the media! /sarcasm


101 posted on 09/11/2005 3:24:49 PM PDT by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Kord
If this was true the media would have jumped all over it by now

Welcome to FR. Lurk a while to get a take on the real world. Or, do we need to get into ZOT standby mode, here?

102 posted on 09/11/2005 3:27:48 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Salvey

I find it hard to believe also. Sounds to me like more things to blame Bush for.


103 posted on 09/11/2005 3:28:30 PM PDT by kitkat ("We're not going to let anybody frighten us from our great love of freedom." GWB, 7/22/05))
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To: don-o
Do tell me Don if you think for a nanosecond that a healthcare professional would even tell this story. I know I would not. I saw what kind of conditions they were working under. This is done every single day in our hospitals for patients that are terminal but it is not something that would be discussed with a tabloid paper.
104 posted on 09/11/2005 3:28:39 PM PDT by Leapofaith (I stole this tagline from Radix --- don't tell)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Caroline Graham, US Correspondent for the Mail on Sunday.

105 posted on 09/11/2005 3:28:40 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: don-o

L0L I suppose you are correct :)


106 posted on 09/11/2005 3:29:25 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Petronski


It's not.


107 posted on 09/11/2005 3:29:29 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: sweetliberty

have you seen this one?


108 posted on 09/11/2005 3:29:47 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: technomage
Watch it folks! This is the Daily Mail. They never look for proof of anything. They just print rumor, slander, innuendo.

Right. The Daily Mail is only a little more reliable than our own National Inquirer. In fact I wouldn't even give it that much credibility, this article may well be nothing more than pure fiction.

Or if not and there is some truth to the story, you can be sure that whatever vestige of fact it may contain has been generously sensationalized to make the rag more salable.

109 posted on 09/11/2005 3:30:01 PM PDT by epow (Vegetarian - old Indian word for "poor shot".)
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To: MikeinIraq
I used to think that we should rebuild the SuperDome. After reading this story, I don't think that building should be left standing.

Aside from the poster's added words, what does this article have to do with the Superdome? These events took place in NO's hospitals, the article indicates.

And that noise you just heard? That was American's malpractice lawyers intake of greed as they just realized how many wrongful death lawsuits they're going to be filing.
110 posted on 09/11/2005 3:30:49 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Arthalion

Triage is not euthanasia


111 posted on 09/11/2005 3:31:43 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: kenth

What was a Utility manager from the town of Abita Springs, LA which is on the north side of Lake Ponchartrain doing in NO at a hospital during the Hurricane?... Why wasn't he taking care of his town and their inhabitants and the utility system he was in charge of?...

It's for damn sure he didn't get into NO via the I-10 section that crosses Lake Pontchartrain... It no longer exist in some sections.


112 posted on 09/11/2005 3:35:35 PM PDT by deport
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To: Leapofaith
but it is not something that would be discussed with a tabloid paper.

Even if there is no source, can you doubt that it happened; and it now get sensationalized, for no reason, except to sell papers.

Simply another example of the low level of discourse that "informs".

113 posted on 09/11/2005 3:36:01 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: don-o
"A double shot of morphine is not unheard of, even outside of disasters, Usually, it is not considered newsworthy. But, it happens to ease suffering."

Is that all it takes to kill? A double dose or more?
I CAN believe this happened - THOUGH I hope it didn't, but I can believe it IF it did.
This IS how they DO IT in hospices I think, morphine overdose is how they do it all the time at these mercy death units, to speed the "process", just not talked about a lot so the relatives don't get freaked out (rightfully so!)

When someone's terminal they usually are aware that the more they take the quicker they'll go and they have self-administering pumps, they can put as much of the stuff inside them as they want -- I think - to speed the process? Just not talked about much because still "taboo" and stigmatized?

All said, I'm VERY ANTI - EUTHANSIA.
114 posted on 09/11/2005 3:36:43 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: kenth

First, I doubt the verasity of this article. Secondly, any medical personal that "put down patients" should be charged with murder.


115 posted on 09/11/2005 3:38:05 PM PDT by mom-7
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To: don-o
It is conjecture and it is salacious on the mails behalf.
116 posted on 09/11/2005 3:38:10 PM PDT by Leapofaith (I stole this tagline from Radix --- don't tell)
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To: kenth

You edited the title to include Superdome?.....

WHY?...... there is no mention and no indication that the Superdome was involved in this story?...


117 posted on 09/11/2005 3:38:22 PM PDT by deport
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To: Salvey; Petronski
I find this account hard to believe.

I, too, find it hard to believe. I can't imagine it's true for most of the doctors. I hope it's not true. If it is true, I hope it is just the desperate actions, not of a 'savior' doctor, but of a euthanasia wannabe, a Dr. Kevorkian type exposing himself and looking for public affirmation. Either way, I hope some effort is made to get to the bottom of the story, true or false.

118 posted on 09/11/2005 3:39:35 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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I kind of want to call shens on this story.

I read, on another forum, that the UK press was also running a story of accusations made by British by-standers who are swearing that there were rescue authorities who demanded that women lifted their shirts to expose their breasts or they would be left behind.

I give this story as much credence as I gave that one.

total shens.
119 posted on 09/11/2005 3:41:13 PM PDT by KarenMarie
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To: kenth

This doesn't quite pass the smell test. What corroboration is there?


120 posted on 09/11/2005 3:43:22 PM PDT by Jemian (It's better to be historically accurate than politically correct.)
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