Posted on 09/10/2005 10:53:03 PM PDT by churchillbuff
The issue: Four years since the terrorist attacks
Our view: Part of the 9/11 healing process is bringing bin Laden to justice.
Four years ago, our nation was changed forever on this day.
This year, for the first time since those horrific terrorist attacks, we feel as if the nation is finally starting to heal - events and activities are scheduled for this day without nearly the anxiety felt in 2002, 2003 and even 2004.
But even though it's important to heal - and to focus on a more recent human tragedy in the Gulf - we can't ever forget what happened on that crisp morning in New York, Washington, D.C., and in a Pennsylvania field, a man whose last words were "Let's Roll" died just after he heroically led a failed attempt to regain control of the doomed airplane.
Today, we cherish the memory of those who died and honor those who perished trying to save these most innocent victims of terror.
We can't forget what happened four years ago, and that's what makes the fact that the evil mastermind of the attacks remains at large such a travesty.
We've spent four years and in the neighborhood of $400 billion on the "war on terror," so far, yet the man who did this to us is still on the loose.
We owe it to the victims' families and to the nation to hunt down Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.
No, but I do think OBL should be captured, and I think it should be a top priority. He committed 9-11; he did the crime - he should do the time (ie a brief period on death row, then old sparky)
You misunderstood me. I thought your question was a genuine one. I was really surprised you didn't know.
I had no idea how long you had been here, I just know you have been here at least as long as I have been, which I figured was long enough to know what a zot is.
This is very interesting isn't it- people here are actually making a case against capturing OBL.
Personally, I agree with you 100%. Sure, capturing the SOB may not necessarily change anything vis-a-vis the 9/11 War itself, but capturing, and killing, OBL will definitely feel good.
I find it odd that individuals seem to think that, by focusing a little more attention and energy on the actual capture of OBL we will somehow decrease our attention on the overall 9/11 War and diminish our ability to conduct said war. I believe this to be a fallacious belief.
I'm not an expert on war strategy, tactics, surveillance, or hunt and capture, but (admittedly unsubstantiated) I believe it is possible to hunt and capture both OBL and Zarqauwi(sp) given the means, the will and the 'go ahead', however, I do believe that this effort is being tremendously curtailed by the efforts of the liberal, socialist and communist left, et al.
You think that's something, Apollo 13 lifted off at exactly 13:13 hours and two days later, on April 13, it had the onboard explosion. There is also a report that the president was at some "Building 13" at the time of liftoff (haven't been able to verify that).
The Columbia mission was launched January 16, 2003 as the 113th space shuttle mission.
After several delays, the space shuttle Challenger finally lifted off January 28, 1986 at 11:38 a.m. One minute and 13 seconds into the flight, Challenger exploded. 11:38 a.m. works out to 1 + 1 + 3 + 8 = 13.
Should we stop going after the rest of Al-Quada until OBL is captured?
Should we not launch operations against other Global Terrorists organizations and those who support them until we have captured OBL
Just answer those two questions please!!!!!!!!
The Unabomber was at large for decades. Eric Rudolph evaded capture for years. These people were hiding out in the US.
OBL has not been permitted to strike America again. We suffered more frequent terrorist attacks during the Clinton administration.
Our allies have suffered some attacks. Some, like Spain, folded from the pressure. Others like England and Australia have stood firm.
Prove it.
I'm not an expert on war strategy, tactics, surveillance, or hunt and capture
Neither am I. That's why I don't armchair quarterback.
Buttered bread always falls butter side down, my neighbors cat always lands on it feet when I toss it back over the fence. If I duct taped some buttered bread butter side up on the back of the neighbors cat would it float along the prevailing winds or just hover on it's next launch over the fence ?
The issue is, that it will NEVER be enough for some people to define success.
First we were going to get slaughtered in Afghanistan. That didn't happen, the Useful Idiots maintained we weren't successful.
So we went into Iraq. They said we would get bogged down and chewed up by the Iraqi war machine. That didn't happen, they said we weren't successful unless we go Saddams sons.
We got Saddam's sons, then they said it would not be a success until we get Saddam. We got him, and it wouldn't be a success until we get Bin Laden.
If we get Bin Laden, it will not be a success, because the Useful Idiots just want to keep moving the goal.
Anyway, we will be at this for a long time, until the entire world makes terrorism a taboo.
I would like to see Bin Laden caught. However, does ANYONE seriously think the Useful Idiots who oppose military action will say things were successful if we do catch him? Anyone? It would be nice, but I don't think it is going to be any kind of significant marker on the anti-terrorism road.
Why would we have to stop going after the rest of Al Qaeda? Why would we have to stop doing any of the things we are currently doing in theater? I'm unclear on this.
LOL
I'm not an insider strategist. I just think there are certain metrics that are reasonable gauges of how effective we have been in responding to 9-11, and surely one of those metrics is the capture and execution of the mastermind of 9-11. Like Bush, who said after 9-11 that getting Osama "dead or alive" was his focus, I still think that should be a top priority. The guy deserves to die for all the pain, terror, misery he caused on 9-11 -- for all the dead and for all the widows and orphans he created. He deserves to be executed. I want him captured and put to death. Anyone who says that makes me a "liberal" has a curious notion of what a "liberal" is.
LOL!, or (11)?
Let's just KILL him instead!!!
Prove it? Is not most everyone on this discussion of the opinion that we should not go after OBL? Is not most everyone on the discussion in disagreement with Churchill Buff, and is not Churchill Buff's assertion that we should capture OBL?
ok,you do it
I never said that. I'd love to see Osama caught tomorrow. But hinging the entire war on it is a flawed premise. Osama is but one piece of the puzzle and the face that has been put on terrorism.
By your own comments on this thread, you have dismissed the Iraq War because we have not captured OBL.
Now answer my questions or continue on with your typical leftists dodging
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