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Family Advocate Claims ACLU Seeks to Turn Kids Into Pro-Homosexual Activists
Agape Press ^ | 9/9/05 | Jim Brown

Posted on 09/10/2005 2:42:10 PM PDT by wagglebee

An Ohio pro-family activist warns that the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is disseminating information in an effort that is creating confrontational pro-homosexual student activists. A website for the organization's Lesbian and Gay Rights Project offers students a "Know Your Rights" card and refers to laws that purportedly protect homosexual behavior.

But Linda Harvey, head of the conservative group Mission America, contends that the information the ACLU's homosexual rights advocates are providing through the site is somewhat distorted. "They say, for instance, that you have a federal constitutional right to express your sexual orientation," she notes. "I don't think that exists, unless I'm misinformed. I don't see that anywhere in our Constitution."

Harvey feels the ACLU is putting such information in the hands of students with a deliberate purpose. "What they're doing is ... creating a situation where students are going to be confrontational, and most school boards and schools in this country are not prepared to deal with this," she asserts.

The pro-family spokeswoman believes the ACLU, in its effort to educate homosexual students of these so-called "rights," is setting up a situation in which the civil liberties organization can sue a school on behalf of a student who does not get what he or she wants at school. Meanwhile, she points out, as another part of its Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, the ACLU is encouraging homosexual students to establish "Gay Straight Alliance" (GSA) clubs, wear homosexual-themed t-shirts, and promote "gay pride" on campus.

However, Harvey says schools can prevent the formation of such clubs if the schools do not have a non-discrimination policy that includes the term "sexual orientation." Also, she notes that schools have another option, "if they have an abstinence-based sex education policy; they can deny these clubs."

In that case, the Ohio family advocate points out, some investigation and documentation would be necessary for schools to make their case against the formation of student GSAs. "What [school officials] will have to do," she explains, "is go back and research clubs in the past and find the fact that clubs really do deal with sexual matters. They say that they don't, but they do. That would be another adequate defense."

Harvey says since the ACLU has a myriad of resources for homosexual students yet offers none for Christian students, the group is clearly demonstrating that its commitment to diversity is phony.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; gayclu; gaystoppo; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; moralabsolutes; schools; sodomites
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To: middie

WHO are you talking about? It is NOT conservatives who do this, I assure you.


21 posted on 09/10/2005 4:10:50 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( "What? No gravy? (POW!!) "Next time, remember the gravy!!!"(From "Chow Hound",1951.))
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To: Rabid Dog

What will happen when it's not fashionable anymore to be gay? How will the educators explain their promotion of the gay agenda to the millions of kids under 21? How will those students cope when they find out it's a (bad) choice -- they're not born that way?


22 posted on 09/10/2005 4:14:16 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Snap on and don't let go!)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
and any informed person is ,surprised by the ACLU's - Anti-American, all the time agenda

Short shameful confession: I was once a member of the ACLU. By way of mitigation, it was years ago, I was not political in any way and I had no idea what they really stood for. All you can do it keep putting the word out. When you live in an ultra-liberal location like San Francisco, where I did for many years, there is a strong social feeling that you need to do stuff like join the ACLU and Amnesty International. There are many people are supporters who have not a clue what the ACLU is up to.

Fortunately my story has a happy ending. Many years ago I had a business and on the recommendation of a friend I bought advertising on a local radio station, KSFO. I started listening and to see where my money was going and there was this guy who had just started there, Michael Savage ..........

23 posted on 09/10/2005 4:15:48 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: hombre_sincero
at some point in the very near future - there MUST be a face to face showdown to settle this issue once and for all.

I do not believe the aclu kind will prevail

The communists prevailed in Russia from the 1920s through the 1980s without a mandate. And you think they can't rise again? Show me one communist who has been punished in America. On the flip side, Christians are being hammered down, a prime ambition of the communists along with the tearing apart of families.

24 posted on 09/10/2005 4:22:29 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: wagglebee
"ACLU Seeks to Turn Kids Into Pro-Homosexual Activists"

NOT SO!! The ACLU core objective is to develop an on-going supply of clean, fresh meat for the existing faggots. In return, the leaders of the ACLU get, well, an on-going supply of clean, fresh meat and the the liberal financial support and decorating power of the other faggots.

25 posted on 09/10/2005 4:25:32 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: atomic_dog
think of the orgs that have been co-opted to full blown socialist agenda since the '50's - from conservative apathy

Sierra Club, League of Women Voters, ACLU, NAACP, etc, etc

I think the tide has turned (since the '94 revolution)

26 posted on 09/10/2005 4:26:54 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

Add the Democratic Party to that list.


27 posted on 09/10/2005 4:28:17 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: wagglebee
The ACLU is MORE dangerous to our Liberties than OBL or al-Qaeda ever was or will be.
28 posted on 09/10/2005 4:35:47 PM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich WZ")
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To: darkangel82

AMEN !


29 posted on 09/10/2005 4:37:47 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: middie
The absurdities relentlessly attributed to the ACLU here only lend crediibilty to the wisdom of ignoring the nonsensical, barking idiocy of the anti-intellectualism of those who disagree with the organization.

On the other hand, failing to identify such an organization for what they are, simply becuase you're afraid of being labeled "extreme", by default allows them to continue their agenda. If performing any action or taking any position that may get you called "extreme" makes you uncomfortable, perhaps your time would be better spent somewhere else besides a site dedicated to conservative activism.
30 posted on 09/10/2005 4:55:38 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Rca2000

It refers to the ACLU


31 posted on 09/10/2005 5:12:34 PM PDT by middie
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To: Rca2000
The ACLU, NAMBLA, GLAAD, GLESN, PFLAG,PAW,NOW, etc, are ALL abolished forever, to be replaced by pro-life, pro-family organizations, like BOND, CWA, Promise keepers, and so on.
That Idea isn't new - ist has already been tried before. The political term is "Gleichschaltung", if I remember correctly.

Trouble is, it did'nt really work then, and it certainly won't work here. Lets, for example, think for a second about one of the organizations on your list, the National Organization of Women, NOW. That one has quite a few members. Now when you abolish this organization, what do you think those members will do ?

History tells us they will join other, organizations that have not been abolished. Assume such an organization is, say, Focus on the Family (no idea if they are actually membership based - lets just assume they are). After one or two rounds of votes, how do you think Focus' board will look like ? Or, say, it's chapter in News York City ?

Would you bet that Focus would not morph into a pro choice organiaztion within a few years ? And what happens after that ? Well, the conservative members, now in the minority and rather unhappy with its new stance, will leave to form another organization.

Basically, after a little ripple back and forth, all will be the same as before - things have just new names. After round two or three you will either give up or have to put up more drastic measures. You might, for instance, criminally sanction the support of undesirable points ov view (like that abortion should be legal). Or, you could institute some laws disallowing people holding those views to join any kind of organization. (You will of course also have to outlaw them forming new organizations).

If history tells us anything, you will ultimately fail. If you are lucky your compatriots will regard the intermezzo of your and your friend's reign a sorry interlude, a stain the nation's otherwise polished honour. If you are not so lucky, you will be hated and despised by generations to come. And, of course, you and your friends stand a decent chance to end on the swinging end of some rope in a cold winter night, in front of some makeshift revolutionary comando. Once you start putting people in prison for not agreeing with yourt opinion, real friends will be hard to come by. Oryou could rot in some jail until life's end, because your buddy Amos, who is Minister of Religion, put you there under the accusation of secrtely supporting a homosexual agenda, and since you outlawed all dissent, well, there's nobody left to argue with good old Amos. (And all that because Amos is mad at you for flirting with his mistress) [My apologies to the rest for pulling a Goodwin.]
32 posted on 09/10/2005 5:20:05 PM PDT by Tullius
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To: middie

So you support an organization that uses the courts and judicial activism as a tool to pry the lid off the BSA so their perverted pederasts clients NAMBLA can gain access to the children?


33 posted on 09/10/2005 5:23:08 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: middie
The absurdities relentlessly attributed to the ACLU here only lend crediibilty to the wisdom of ignoring the nonsensical, barking idiocy of the anti-intellectualism of those who disagree with the organization.

LOL.

How is hating the ACLU anti-intellectual?

Or do you think of the ACLU as an intellectual organization.

I know the ACLU is not behind massive conspiracies, I had a friend whose fiance briefly worked there, (she was fired due to a disagreement over her wanting to handle certain cases which were at odds with the ACLU position). They are however, not a very good, or honest organization.

They are also very much anti-american an anti-christian (not so much all religions though) not only in policy but by the culture of its membership.

It is a radical liberal organization, further left then many other groups in the democratic coalition.

34 posted on 09/10/2005 5:35:28 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
think of the orgs that have been co-opted to full blown socialist agenda since the '50's - from conservative apathy... Sierra Club, League of Women Voters, ACLU, NAACP, etc...

Well said. And in this context, the GOP has really lost its way. Ask any liberal historian who was the best environmentalist ever, and most will tell you that it was Teddy Roosevelt. Ask any liberal historian who did the most for racial equality in this country, and they will tell you that it was Abraham Lincoln. Both men were real conservatives like Barry Goldwater, not posers like the neo-con-men of today. It is a shame that the GOP has abandoned such issues and given them to the Democrats.

Another writer wrote that he was embarrassed to have once been a member of the ACLU, and there were followups about how it was founded by commies. There is a huge omission here about how the ACLU changed, purging commies, then changed again. The writer should feel no shame; the ACLU was once a great organization, that, like the others listed above, lost its way big-time.
35 posted on 09/10/2005 5:37:17 PM PDT by km6xu (1998 Onion Headline: Palestinian Gunman Angered by Stereotypes)
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To: middie
The absurdities relentlessly attributed to the ACLU here only lend crediibilty to the wisdom of ignoring the nonsensical, barking idiocy of the anti-intellectualism of those who disagree with the organization.

Forget the absurdities you wish to add into the mix -stay on topic. Who cares what the idiots think? We oppose because we are right -not because it is politically correct. Your whining is noted as is your support by omission of the ACLU...

36 posted on 09/10/2005 5:46:03 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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sheesh I had to look up 'necrophagia


37 posted on 09/10/2005 5:51:40 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: All

GSA's are an arm of GLSEN.

It is basically a homosexual recruiting, dating, and sexual experimentation club.

I KNOW texas requires homosexuality to taught as a negative lifestyle choise on the basis of SCIENCE and health. (it can be found though http://www.findlaw.com )

That was NOT affected by lawrence.

Also it is worth noting that the word "orientation" has now been substituted for "preference" after the homoadvocates determined "preference" implied choice.

Remember folks these are the same people who want to abolish any age of consent laws.


38 posted on 09/10/2005 6:06:33 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: fr_freak; middie
On the other hand, failing to identify such an organization for what they are, simply becuase you're afraid of being labeled "extreme", by default allows them to continue their agenda. If performing any action or taking any position that may get you called "extreme" makes you uncomfortable, perhaps your time would be better spent somewhere else besides a site dedicated to conservative activism.

well said!

39 posted on 09/10/2005 7:16:37 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: wagglebee

A Policy Analysis of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Safer Schools Issues
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1481064/posts


40 posted on 09/10/2005 7:27:35 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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