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We Shut Down the Bridge
Washington Times & UPI via NRO ^ | Sep. 9, 2005 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:37 AM PDT by hipaatwo

Think local officials are less to blame for deaths in New Orleans than federal officials? In the most jaw-dropping story of the week, UPI has the police chief of Gretna, Louisiana, admitting that he closed off one of the major arteries out of New Orleans on Monday, before the storm hit:

"We shut down the bridge," Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department, confirmed to United Press International, adding that his jurisdiction had been "a closed and secure location" since before the storm hit.

"All our people had evacuated and we locked the city down," he said. The bridge in question -- the Crescent City Connection -- is the major artery heading west out of New Orleans across the Mississippi River.


He added that the small town, which he called "a bedroom community" for the city of New Orleans, would have been overwhelmed by the influx. "There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; govwatch; gretna; hurricanekatrina; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; leftistcrap; neworleans; nimby; selfdefense; suburbanvictims; urbanbarbarians; yellowsnowdog
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To: dirtboy
Did the story mention that the Bridge is ALWAYS Closed when the area is under a Hurricane Warning and the storm is approaching the city?

BTW-Would you like to be a a bridge that is 300 ft. above the river as a Cat. 4 hit the city?
81 posted on 09/09/2005 11:38:20 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: TX Conservative

Maybe send an email to Shep?


82 posted on 09/09/2005 11:38:26 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: hipaatwo

Everyone is focusing on the bridges!

It was a tactical move by a law enforcement type with limited resources.

He got everyone out of his town and to safety, and then it was his responsibility to protect what was there.

"Locked down and secured" means just that. Like it or not, this guy was doing his job for thems that pay him.

Locked down and secure does not mean to let folks wander through, knowing that you don't know what they will do.


83 posted on 09/09/2005 11:38:54 AM PDT by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: dirtboy
Hey not trying to spin anything, just trying to tell what the truth is. How many hurricane damaged bridges have you tried to cross. The one down the street from me is my benchmark. In the last storm it had a chunk taken out of it, lost part of the guard rail -- flying debris damage.

I want the truth first, is that too much to ask?
84 posted on 09/09/2005 11:39:52 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Mo1

I don't even know what to say anymore Mo.


85 posted on 09/09/2005 11:40:09 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: Tarpon

Don't try to Introduce Facts into a Good FR Thread!


86 posted on 09/09/2005 11:40:09 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: IronMan04
Did the story mention that the Bridge is ALWAYS Closed when the area is under a Hurricane Warning and the storm is approaching the city?

Then WTH was with this?:

He added that the small town, which he called "a bedroom community" for the city of New Orleans, would have been overwhelmed by the influx. "There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."

87 posted on 09/09/2005 11:40:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hipaatwo

I bet the bridge was open when everybody was told to "get out of New Orleans - - there's a big hurricane coming!"

What's that saying? You snooze, you lose? Hats off to Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department. He protected his city, and if I was a resident there, I would be very grateful indeed.


88 posted on 09/09/2005 11:40:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: hipaatwo
"If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."

I really can't argue with that sentiment.

89 posted on 09/09/2005 11:41:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: IronMan04
Did the story mention that the Bridge is ALWAYS Closed when the area is under a Hurricane Warning and the storm is approaching the city?

It was shut down for days afterwards, long after the hurricane was gone.

Any more irrelevant facts you wish to inject in order to muddy the waters here?

90 posted on 09/09/2005 11:41:32 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: wideawake
25,000 dollars from 500 people who didn't leave the French Quarte hotels (BTW, which hotel...they never say. How conveinent) means 500 cash per person. And what bus company could or did they contact that would agree to drive ten buses to them in the flooding Quarter? A bus company they say had their busses commandeered by authorities. Oh, how convienent, again they did not give is the name of the company.

Very little of their so-called report is verifiable. Reads more like a list of yahoo or CNN accounts strung together and turned into a perfect liberal taking point story. Particularly the part where the now 200 of them left the Superdome, "determined and optimistic" and gathered other proletarians at the Convention Center. Outcast by the bourgeois, they marched to the interstate on their own "long march", against all odds, against the capitalist overmesiters who were keeping the working peoples down.

Reads like a bunch of marxist swill and pegged the BS meter full to the far wall from the get go.

91 posted on 09/09/2005 11:41:57 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: IronMan04

The incidents described in the article happened AFTER the hurricane had passed.


92 posted on 09/09/2005 11:42:03 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: Lancey Howard
Hats off to Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department. He protected his city, and if I was a resident there, I would be very grateful indeed.

Yes, let's protect property and leave starving and dehyrdated people trapped in NOLA to die.

Nice value system.

93 posted on 09/09/2005 11:42:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Lancey Howard

Heck I was in Los Angeles and I knew the only way out of New Orleans was the Crescent City connection...it was repeated over and over on the scanner feed. LSP and National Guard directing people.


94 posted on 09/09/2005 11:42:52 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: wideawake

Clearly you've never had to deal with a crowd.

Actually I was part of the 'crowd' fleeing from the huge S.F. Bay Area fire (lost my home) about a dozen years ago. What I witnessed was frantic police officers making very poor decisions that COST some lives, including that of an 18 year old girl whom they told to stay in her home (she was alone) as 'help was coming'. The house burned down with her in it. My conclusion is that when people are fleeing and fighting for survival, it truly is 'every man for himself' and the police are not very helpful, to say the least. They are trained to 'group think' not think on their feet in a true crisis.


95 posted on 09/09/2005 11:43:17 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: Jeff Head
Recall that Shep Smith was screaming for the bridge to be opened so people could get out.

This story fits with the facts. Some of the details may be hyperbole, but the basic story appears accurate from several related events.

96 posted on 09/09/2005 11:43:42 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

LOL! Nobody in NO starved to death.


97 posted on 09/09/2005 11:43:42 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
LOL! Nobody in NO starved to death.

Plenty of them died of dehydration.

Many were diabetic and needed food to avoid going into insulin shock.

Nice LOL by the way at human suffering.

98 posted on 09/09/2005 11:44:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: mewzilla
He is talking about after the storm.

After a storm the bridges must be inspected.

Foot traffic across a causes a bridge to carry a weight load which is greater than vehicle traffic.
Even if you were to get all the people across the bridge how would you control them once on the West Bank?
99 posted on 09/09/2005 11:45:09 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: dirtboy

Limbaugh mentioning this story now.


100 posted on 09/09/2005 11:45:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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