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We Shut Down the Bridge
Washington Times & UPI via NRO ^ | Sep. 9, 2005 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:37 AM PDT by hipaatwo

Think local officials are less to blame for deaths in New Orleans than federal officials? In the most jaw-dropping story of the week, UPI has the police chief of Gretna, Louisiana, admitting that he closed off one of the major arteries out of New Orleans on Monday, before the storm hit:

"We shut down the bridge," Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department, confirmed to United Press International, adding that his jurisdiction had been "a closed and secure location" since before the storm hit.

"All our people had evacuated and we locked the city down," he said. The bridge in question -- the Crescent City Connection -- is the major artery heading west out of New Orleans across the Mississippi River.


He added that the small town, which he called "a bedroom community" for the city of New Orleans, would have been overwhelmed by the influx. "There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; govwatch; gretna; hurricanekatrina; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; leftistcrap; neworleans; nimby; selfdefense; suburbanvictims; urbanbarbarians; yellowsnowdog
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To: alcuin
P.S.: What poll numbers are you using?

None. I've just heard it repeatedly from Indians and groups of Indians (we have an annual Pow Wow nearby, and know it also from mission trips to reservations).

Go TRIBE!!

(Hey.......before you start laughing, the Indians aren't bad this year. ;)

821 posted on 09/13/2005 10:04:12 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan

Stay well.


822 posted on 09/13/2005 10:10:27 AM PDT by alcuin (whowillridmeofallthesedarntyrantsdarnit!!!)
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To: linkinpunk

they were survivors and they needed water,food and shelter. You would have us believe that everyone that survived were looters.


823 posted on 09/13/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: ruoflaw

I would have kept them out until I seperated the looters from the victims.


824 posted on 09/13/2005 12:56:15 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: linkinpunk

I read your personal page. Did you forget what you have posted there? The Governor and the mayor let their constituents down. My husband and I watched the National Guard signing people into the superdome. They were possessing everyone that went into the dome and they gave them water and ME kits and then after the hurricane hit, the National Guard was no where to be seen. The Governor would not let the red cross or anyone else go there and help those people because she wanted them to leave. 80% of New Orleans was under water. Well, well did she expect them to go? Why didn't she leave the National Guard units at the dome to keep the peace? These people needed help but their own government refused to help them


825 posted on 09/13/2005 2:14:38 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: hipaatwo
No problem; a few hundred long bus convoy out of town would have broken the police blockade, easily.....

BUT... then again, there WAS no bus convoy.. was there.. The cops must of only stopped a few potential looters.. if any..

Nagins infamy is rising..

826 posted on 09/13/2005 2:26:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: linkinpunk

I don't know how you would go about separating looters from the victims. Oh, did they all have shopping carts? lol


827 posted on 09/13/2005 2:50:09 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: stand watie
Now you are boring me.
828 posted on 09/13/2005 3:56:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!)
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To: ohioWfan
I am sorry , I did not mean to attribute something to you which you did not say or do not feel. I tried to avoid these threads as much as I could, knowing they would be a blood bath, knowing that I have strong opinions and really feel I have been burned by some of the people we are talking about- and I admit I got too emotional about the threads I did read and comment on before this one. I can only attribute my reaction to the lootings and crimes in NO to my feelings about the LA riots and my feelings about crimes committed against my family- and we were all tying to help the people when they turned. Right or wrong, I am human and humans do things like that.

I was pinged here because I am on mhkings ping list- I didn't read the thread until recently.

For the record: I think it is wrong to have closed the bridge down if people needed help and help was available on the other side. My nature would be to help people,I don't know if I could if it was a gang member type- but I suspose I would, I don't know anymore-anyone who has worked with inner city gang types knows there is a high burn out rate in that field for a darn good reason.

BTW- My sister was a victim of rape by a gang member- I have a relative who was hit by a car, on purpose- crossing the street while working in a slum- I just have no patience left for the types of people who prey upon others and are so hateful, and there were plenty of them in NO last week, no matter what anyone says: someone burned those buildings and shot at those rescue workers and stormed small business. I do not hold all dark skinned men accountable for the crimes against my family- but I do hold gang members accountable. There is nothing that can be done to change that.

So forgive me if I was not fair with here with you on this issue- I did not mean to misrepresent your posts.

829 posted on 09/13/2005 9:22:55 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink sinks)
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830 posted on 09/14/2005 12:14:52 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: msnimje
Every single sheriff and mayor of other cities in Louisiana knew what thugs ran the streets unimpeded in NO and they did not want that terror imported to their towns and cities.

Nor should they have been expected to. I guess its easy to judge the sherriff of this town when a person doesn't have to deal with it themselves.

831 posted on 09/14/2005 12:42:30 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: wideawake
Clearly you've never had to deal with a crowd. The Gretna police chief probably had no idea that the NOPD would never get the situation under control. He was trying to keep the lawlessness from spreading and he probably saved lives.

You nailed it. Too bad everybody can't calm down and think the situation through.

832 posted on 09/14/2005 12:50:25 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Lancey Howard
What's that saying? You snooze, you lose? Hats off to Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department. He protected his city, and if I was a resident there, I would be very grateful indeed.

Amen!

833 posted on 09/14/2005 12:52:12 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: wideawake
Apparently I work in the only major city in the US with a competent police force.

NYPD is the finest in the nation. Thats just a fact. They handled 9/11 beautifully and the RNC just as well. Kudos to the NYPD!

834 posted on 09/14/2005 12:57:56 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: dirtboy
We are not talking dense foot traffic. We are talking a few groups at a time that were not allowed to leave.

And you really think these people would have obeyed the orders for small groups at a time?

835 posted on 09/14/2005 1:09:57 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: dirtboy
So even though they are in dire condition ... leave 'em there do die, just to make sure no looting happens in Gretna.

It was much worse than looting. Try murder and beatings. These police wouldn't have stood a chance with that mob.

836 posted on 09/14/2005 1:25:07 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Torie
The man was an uncaring cruel paranoid racist pig. And there you have it. Period.

So he let white people through and kept the black people out? This racsist word is getting thrown around alot with no proof.

837 posted on 09/14/2005 1:30:19 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Heyworth
But he says in the same article that "all our people" had evacuated. There were no citizens in Gretna to be raped and murdered

But there were police and emergency personal. Aren't they people. I just wonder how many people would turn a crazed mob loose on a few hundred officers.

838 posted on 09/14/2005 1:33:38 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: beckysueb
The people who started this whole mess are not here- they have run of to their handlers, provided them with good cut and paste material at a different website- and they are busy supporting people who do nothing but call freepers racist and sexist names. Of course they are eating up the star-status they are getting there while the other posters pander to them both for being black.

It is like they have a new toy over there.

Of course all the people who throw the word racist around and call people bigots are all superior to you and me becky- because they are not name callers and they treat everyone equally and they would not have kept criminals out of people's business- aren't they cool? So- Looters can not be held accountable for burning down city blocks. No, it would be racist to say that.

839 posted on 09/14/2005 6:33:54 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink sinks)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
GOOD! i LIKE boring and ridiculing DUMB-bunnies.

obviously, you have a short attention span.

free dixie,sw

840 posted on 09/14/2005 8:01:52 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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