Posted on 09/09/2005 8:13:25 AM PDT by 300magnum
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Soldiers and police confiscated guns from homeowners as they went house to house, trying to clear the shattered city of holdouts because of the danger of disease and fire. Police on Friday also marked homes with corpses inside, with plans to return later.
As many as 10,000 people were believed to be stubbornly staying put in the city, despite orders from Mayor Ray Nagin earlier this week to leave or be removed by force. By midmorning, though, there were no immediate reports of anyone being taken out forcibly, police said.
Police are "not going to do that until we absolutely have to. We really don't want to do that at all," Deputy Chief Warren Riley said.
Some residents who had previously refused to leave - whether because they wanted to protect their homes from looters, they did not want to leave their pets behind, or they simply feared the unknown - are now changing their minds and asking to be rescued, police said. "They realize they're not going to this awful situation like the Superdome or the Convention Center," Riley said. "As days go by, it seems less and less likely that we'll have to force anyone."
He added: "I don't know of any incidents where people are being bellingerent."
Police and soldiers seized numerous guns for fear of confrontations with jittery residents who have armed themselves against looters.
"No one will be able to be armed. We are going to take all the weapons," Riley said.
Thomas say forced evacuations would be a mistake.
On Thursday, in the city's well-to-do Lower Garden District, a neighborhood with many antebellum mansions, members of the Oklahoma National Guard seized weapons from the inhabitants of one home. Those who were armed were handcuffed and briefly detained before being let go.
"Walking up and down these streets, you don't want to think about the stuff that you're going to have to do, if somebody's pops out around a corner," said one of the Guardsmen, Chris Montgomery.
Police also went door-to-door checking for bodies or anyone in need of rescue. Houses where corpses were found were marked so that authorities could go back later.
Would they stoop that low?
Ah
well
guess it wont be the first time its happened. Makes me wonder about some of the people we let run around.
BS! Take a look at the film in #11. Do you see any water? The woman is telling then to get the hell out. She want's them out! All the hell the way out and doesn't give a damn about their "orders".
Does the house look dirty? Does the woman look hungry, thirsty, sick? Is she asking for their help? No! She says, just get the hell out of my house that you were never invited into!
"All kinds of contamination...chem contaminationBS, where! Maybe this woman is one of the looters? MAybe she's just a mob boss? Can you come up with some more possibilities to smear the woman's wishes, will and abilities so to justify her being hearded off by the jackbooted goons and flunkys of an incompitent liberal snake?
"It's a public health crisis. The city is oozing with bacteria off-the-charts, since the water is a festering, stinking mess containing all kinds of chemical contamination and raw, unprocessed sewage.
BS! It's not an open sewer, so don't pretend it is one, or is anywhere near it.
"it's eminently reasonable to expel people from a public health danger."
Yoou should toss in, "it's for the children" for good measure!
" Add into the mix the fact that there is no infrastructure whatsoever, it simply is not realistic to expect to survive in New Orleans until the cleanup is done."
THe woman survived the 'cane and a whole bunch of decades w/o living in a govm't camp with her govm't mommy and doesn't appreciate anyone denying her Freedom, shoving a jackbooted mommy down her throat and sticking her in a camp! She's not the only one that resents this BS.
THey also said no one was removed forcibly Thurs, but they were.
I'm not denying that it's happening at all,
I'm commenting on CNN's selective portrayal of events.
I knew that. I just listed another one of their "omissions".
While you and I may agree, have you considered that Nagin the Noggin is a Democrat and Democrats don't neccessarily follow the law. For that matter, I believe it is in the Constitution [the new and revised addition] that they have every right to re-write the laws according to their needs and desires.
We call it affirmative action will make us all powerful.com.
Clever. But isn't there also a bunch of stuff about warrants and probable cause and such legal details?
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Let's keep in mind that all this warrantless search business is just an invention required to fight the War on Some Drugs. It was not intended by our Founders and it is not in accord with the Constitution.
My question is "where are the cop Freepers".
They need to come out and support their brave brothers! I mean they mostly say they wouldn't seize someones gun but I bet 1000 dollars 9 of 10 would. Squantos is not in that group!
I wonder which one of our cop freepers is going to call this an outrage??? There seems to be an eerie silence about it!
LOL good thinking! I was talking to a few of my neighbors.........from what I can tell they would have to bring in an all out assault to get the people in my town out if we didnt' want to go!
Your first statements show your ignorance but this trumps it. Power is coming up. Water is restored to many areas, the sewers are working in a large area of the city. Teh city is healing. 25 - 35 % of the city is relatively unaffected by the flooding. They just lost power and water.
"The Fourth Amendment prohibits unreasonable search and seizure; it's eminently reasonable to expel people from a public health danger."
Clever. But isn't there also a bunch of stuff about warrants and probable cause and such legal details?
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The 4th Amendment died some time ago. NO was its 'official' funeral.
Nasty Girls disarming people. Hmmmm
Very good re-cap of the facts. Thanks.
So where is the outrage of our elected officials? I see plenty of outrage here on FR (and a few boot lickers, sadly), but nothing from any politician yet.
I eagerly await their strong opposition to the trashing of our Constitution in the city of New Orleans, even amid the likely event that they won't.
4th....The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Perhaps an "emergency" declaration by the President is sufficient to satisfy the "unreasonable" restriction. Also, there is nothing that says a "Warrant" has to be issued by a judge.
5th....nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
Perhaps the emergency declaration and the laws describing that are considered "due process" during times of crisis.
My guess is that these special provisions would have some kind of limitation if they do, in fact, exist.
Thanks
..."where are the cop Freepers". I'm sure there are some, ping me when they post!...
Vegas?
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