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What If They Were White (SeeBS Racist Barf Alert)
CBS News - Sunday Morning ^ | September 4, 2005 | Nancy Giles

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:25:47 PM PDT by CreviceTool

What If They Were White?

NEW YORK, Sept. 4, 2005

(CBS) The fact that many of those suffering most in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are poor, and black, has outraged a lot of people. Justifiably so, in the opinion of CBS News Sunday Morning Contributor Nancy Giles. Here is her commentary from Sept. 4, 2005:

After meeting with Louisiana officials last week, Rev. Jesse Jackson said: "Many black people feel that their race, their property conditions and their voting patterns have been a factor in the response." He continued: "I'm not saying that myself."

Then I'll say it.

If the majority of the hardest hit victims of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans were white people, they would not have gone for days without food and water, forcing many to steal for mere survival.

Their bodies would not have been left to float in putrid water.

They would have been rescued and relocated a hell of a lot faster than this. Period.

I mean, reporters and crews are getting to stranded people, and government and military agencies can't? Why doesn't CNN run FEMA?

When I saw pictures of black people taking things from stores, my first thought was: "How are those Air Jordans necessary for your survival?"

Then it hit me: People needed shoes and clothing. Some escaped the floods with just the clothing on their backs

We have American citizens, not "refugees" from an underdeveloped country, still waiting for shelter.

Waiting.

Waiting.

You leave children, pregnant women, the elderly, even the able-bodied, in a city destroyed with no help, no food, no water, no electricity for three, four, five days? What would you do if your family was starving, and you saw people dying in the street?

And why didn't the stores in the disaster areas simply make their goods available to these desperate folks? Surely, they've got insurance.

Love thy neighbor. Didn't I read that somewhere?

The real war is not in Iraq, but right here in America. It's the War on Poverty, and it's a war that's been ignored and lost. An estimated 37 million Americans are living in poverty. New Orleans is one of the poorest cities in the country, with 40 percent of its children living in poverty. Mississippi has the highest poverty rate of any state. We've repeatedly given tax cuts to the wealthiest, and left our most vulnerable American citizens to basically fend for themselves.

The whole world is watching. And once again, a day late and a dollar short, words of wisdom from our president: "This is a huge task that we're dealing with." "These are tough times." "Give cash."

Once again, he finds the photo op: Some black folks to hug, some white men in Mississippi to bond with. He flies over the messy parts of New Orleans, waves and leaves.

The president has put himself at risk by visiting the troops in Iraq, but didn't venture anywhere near the Superdome or the Convention Center, where thousands of victims, mostly black and poor, needed to see that he gave a damn.

©MMV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: black; bush; fewerlooter; fewerlooters; katrina; lesstrouble; moreselfreliance; neworleans; poor; racist; racistmoonbat; seebsnews; theywouldhaveleft; urbanbarbarians; waronpoverty
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To: All
I have been reading this thread trying to get caught up in everyone's posts and I have to say one thing, and one thing only. . . . .

Um . . .isn't this the same CBS who broadcast the fake Guard memos? Isn't this the broadcasting company that took a helluva beating over Rathergate? (Thanks Freep!!)

My question is this: Why would anyone trust what this broadcasting company says?

81 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:26 PM PDT by misharu ("I want to be a martyr for the ballot box." an Iraqi citizen)
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To: CreviceTool
Nancy Giles is an African-American . . .

You can say black. I have never used A-A and never will because there are NO indigenous people to this continent. they were all bussed in across the Bering Strait!!

82 posted on 09/04/2005 8:53:14 PM PDT by misharu ("I want to be a martyr for the ballot box." an Iraqi citizen)
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To: CreviceTool
Then it hit me: People needed shoes and clothing. Some escaped the floods with just the clothing on their backs

That's why some were stealing microwaves and big screen TV's.

83 posted on 09/04/2005 8:54:29 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s great!

What pictures! Great job.

Here's a strange twist. Why has the media gone silent on the issue after these busses were discovered? Why does our media not ask the mayor of New Orleans about those busses? They wouldn’t stop reporting on it as long as it was “Bush’s fault.”

Red6


84 posted on 09/04/2005 8:58:53 PM PDT by Red6
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To: CreviceTool
Editorial---- Not too many years ago, natural disasters were understood to be, well, one of those terrible things that just happened. Not anymore. Today, everything is someone's fault.

Some folks are blaming the flooding in New Orleans on, of all people, President Bush. In the view of a Kuwaiti government official, the "wondrous storm" was a divine payback for America's intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan. To self-styled environmentalist Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the hurricane happened in part because Bush opposed the Kyoto Protocol and other efforts to fight global warming. Some Democrats blame the president for cutting federal spending on the levee system that is supposed to protect New Orleans.

It's time for a reality check.

If any entity "sent" Katrina to New Orleans, it was not God. A just and loving creator does not kill hundreds of innocents just to smite a few villains. And if God was responsible, He sure took His time. New Orleans has been sandwiched between Lake Ponchartrain to the north and the Gulf of Mexico to the south since 1715 -- below sea level, no less. The miracle is that it kept dodging the bullet from hurricanes and Mississippi River floods, not that it got hit once.

The global warming angle is just as foolish. Hurricanes have been churning into the Gulf Coast before human beings released a cubic foot of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Before last year's surge in hurricanes, America hadn't suffered severe damage from a tropical storm since Hurricane Andrew struck Miami in 1992. The worst storms struck from the 1930s through the 1950s, when Category 3, 4 or 5 hurricanes averaged nine per decade. In the 1960s there were six, in the 1970s four, in the 1980s and 1990s five each and since 2001 there have been three.

Global warming might eventually affect things like hurricanes, but there's a big difference between long-term climate change and short-term weather.

The complaint about federal funding also needs context.

President Bush -- like his Democratic predecessor -- proposed cutbacks in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' budget for flood programs. So last year Congress spent "only" $42.2 million in this effort instead of the $105 million that was requested.

No president or Congress can OK every budget proposal that comes across the transom. Most are high-balled with the expectation that they will be cut. Forty-two million dollars is hardly peanuts, and that doesn't include the hundreds of millions that have been spent in previous decades.

Only in America can some people overlook the Democratic mayor of New Orleans (Ray Nagin), a Democratic U.S. representative from New Orleans (William Jefferson), the Democratic governor of Louisiana (Kathleen Blanco) and one Democratic U.S. senator (Mary Landrieu) to blame a Republican president 1,500 miles away for something that probably would have happened eventually anyway.

To end this blame game once and for all, states should establish priorities for federal aid. They know their local conditions and threats better than any bureaucrat in the Beltway, and they should focus on the most pressing needs. If they don't get enough from the feds, they should devote state or local tax dollars to the issue.

And when tragedies happen, let's not waste time pointing fingers at each other about who should have done what months or years ago. Let's realize that we are going to be nailed every now and then by floods and fires or tornadoes and tropical storms, and let's help the people who are hurting.

Thomas Taschinger --Beaumont Exterprise

85 posted on 09/04/2005 9:01:56 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Red6

Media bias, pure and simple. It doesn't fit their bash Bush template. Mayor Navin is the victim, not the culprit, it has been so ordained.


86 posted on 09/04/2005 9:03:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: raybbr
Oberlin College!!1 That tells us all we need to know about this loathsome product of her environment.

Pure excrement.
87 posted on 09/04/2005 9:06:43 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: dk/coro

instead of a war on poverty maybe we need a "war on laziness". Heres a thought, why don't we ENCOURAGE personal responsibility?

Here is a question I have also, why is Bush responsible for the levee's breaking? what did NO do with all the proceeds made from Madi gras, conventions, tourist, etc...? is it such a stretch to imagine that new orleans should have been responsible for reinforcing their own levees?


88 posted on 09/04/2005 9:11:24 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: CreviceTool; All

Who's got the pic of the STFU man?


89 posted on 09/04/2005 9:18:29 PM PDT by stbdside
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To: Peach
Isn't it funny that most of the rescuers I see are white and they are rescuing mostly black people, at great risk. How is that racist?

Thank you. It is truly disgusting that the commie media is so intent on toppling Republicans and conservatives that they will do ANYthing to achieve their goal, even if it includes destroying our country, our unity and lives.

This racist B.S. is beyond words. More putrid than the New Orleans water.

90 posted on 09/04/2005 9:19:12 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: NRA2BFree
He was talking to a black woman, and he was the one playing the race card.

I even heard one of the commie networks saying that the term "refugee" is being used only because most of the displaced are Black.

Funny, I saw a WHITE woman on Fox who described HERSELF as a refugee.

These enemy media people are despicable.

91 posted on 09/04/2005 9:22:57 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: CreviceTool

Booosh hates black people.


92 posted on 09/04/2005 9:22:58 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: CreviceTool

Humm.. guess that explains the looting before the storm even hit...


93 posted on 09/04/2005 9:25:31 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: doghead1

I don't put Geraldo in the same class. He's a tool, but I think he really believes everything he's saying. I don't know... must be because there's too many... "you took hers, take mine too... mine too... mine too... why not... you bastard..."


94 posted on 09/04/2005 9:25:39 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: CreviceTool
I've only been to New Orleans once but as luck would have it, that was on a business trip only a couple of months ago - ended up staying at the Astor Crowne Plaza which is right at the corner of Bourbon and Canal. My impression of the city was that while it was very interesting and had a lot of wonderful people, it was also a place with an incredibly seedy and dangerous underbelly that made me want to get away as soon as possible. Sure - as long as I was in a group or walking along crowded Bourbon, I felt safe after dark. Otherwise, I was always looking over my shoulder and some things positively gave me the creeps. I'm talking about the pervasiveness of voodoo just about everywhere I looked (this is the one thing that seemed to set NO apart from other big cities), the drugs/drug-dealers/druggies, the abuse of alcohol and street drunks, prostitution, the bare-breasted tattooed women I saw on Bourbon St, the brazenness of sinful and decadent lifestyles - where does one stop? Sure one can say that these are in every big city but NO was different. There it was a much more accepted part of the culture - almost as if this was a group that no one wanted to get rid of because it was part of the 'charm' and 'character' of the city. What can one say when the entire tone from arrival was 'party til you drop with no limits to decadence'. I remember getting a very early cab at 4 or 5 in the morning. Looking up Bourbon St., a big truck was coming through hosing the whole place down to get ready for another day. However daily wash-downs couldn't erase the odour of vomit and urine that always seemed to waft past.

When I think of the racism charges, it makes me wonder. That the population of NO was predominantly black is not a question, it's a fact (60 or 70%). So one would thus assume that all things being equal, those left behind would also be predominantly black. The bigger question is (and ignoring for the moment the issue of inadequate response by the mayor and the governor), what is the detailed make-up of the people that were left behind? It's definitely way to simplistic to simply call them poor and black. Forget colour for the moment, I would like to see a breakdown on other demographics: 1. How many of these were drug-dealers, gang members, prostitutes, street thugs of one sort or another (my guess is that based on the profile of the people that were at the dome, a very high percentage) and how many of these 'street people' never got the word to get out (let alone being about the hardest group to organize, round-up and evacuate), 2. How many of the thugs planned to stay there simply to loot the place because no one would be around to stop them, 3. How many of those left were ones generally classified as homeless and never got the word to get out (simply because they are street people and thus important information bypasses them), 4. How many that remained had the chance to get out and never took it, 5. How many of these have had the chance to get out SINCE the hurricane and didn't voluntarily take it. 5. And so on and so on. No doubt there were also a lot of decent folks left that never had a hope but these may have well been in the minority. My guess is that even with the ineptness by the city and the state, a huge percentage of the ones that were left were destined to stay there because either they were determined to ride it out, never got the word or were so 'busy' doing what street people do that they wouldn't have left under any circumstances. Frankly, colour had nothing to do with anything.

95 posted on 09/04/2005 9:26:24 PM PDT by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: Sender
But since seeBS and the others are forcing us down that road, let's imagine that the victims had been white. Would they have been shooting at their rescuers? Not likely. Would they have waited for Uncle Sam to bring a Greyhound bus outside and carry their TV to safety? Not likely. Would they have raped women and children in shelters and terrorized the weak to steal their food and water? Hah.

Therin lies the rub. The white community would have probably pitched in together, gotten organized, stayed calm and orderly, and yes, gotten out a hell of a lot faster than the unruly mob of blacks. Thus "proving" this witches accusation.

96 posted on 09/04/2005 9:36:57 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...

My experiences as a hotel guest in New Orleans mirrored yours. One clear memory: On my way to an early dinner in the French Quarter, I encountered a very drunk man in a wheelchair. When I returned to my hotel, I again encountered the same man in the wheelchair, but his face was covered with blood and he was drinking directly from a liquor bottle, but still very much out and about for the evening. My impression of French Quarter denizens was that they had all the money they needed as long as they died by 4:00am.


97 posted on 09/04/2005 9:42:57 PM PDT by CreviceTool
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I even heard one of the commie networks saying that the term "refugee" is being used only because most of the displaced are Black.

Funny, I saw a WHITE woman on Fox who described HERSELF as a refugee.

These enemy media people are despicable.

They really are despicable. They make me sick. I have never watched CNN, and the only reason I was on CNN is because Fox News had Bill O'Reilly coming on and I didn't want to see Geraldo crying again. LOL I was surfing, and landed on CNN. That will be the first and last time I ever do that again.

98 posted on 09/04/2005 9:56:35 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: CreviceTool

NANCY GILES was born and raised in Queens, New York, and is a proud product of the New York City public school system. She is a graduate of Oberlin College and started her professional acting career as a singing bag of garbage with the Paper Bag Players, followed by a short (no pun intended) stint as a Santa elf at Macy's on 34th Street in the heart of Manhattan.

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On television, Nancy is thrilled to be a writer and contributor to the Emmy award-winning "CBS News Sunday Morning." She was the announcer and co-host of the alternative morning show "Fox After Breakfast;"


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Nancy wrote and performed the solo pieces "Black Comedy--The Wacky Side of Racism" and "Notes of a Negro Neurotic," which were both developed with and directed by Ellie Covan at Dixon Place in New York City.


Email: nancy@nancygiles.com



http://tinyurl.com/cmd65


99 posted on 09/04/2005 10:04:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: CreviceTool
I mean, reporters and crews are getting to stranded people

Dear IDIOT,

Most of them were there BEFORE the Hurricane!

100 posted on 09/04/2005 10:05:41 PM PDT by kcvl
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