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National Hurricane Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out..."
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Sun, Aug. 28, 2005 | BY MARC CAPUTO, DAVID OVALLE AND ERIKA BOLSTAD

Posted on 09/03/2005 12:14:14 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

MAYOR CRITICIZED EVEN BEFORE LEVY BREAK. National Hurricane Center Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out of New Orleans." "The criticisms of Nagin came from above as well. Numerous officials urged him to evacuate the city, but he worried about the legality of ordering people out when New Orleans has few safe hurricane shelters. Also, National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield in Miami called Nagin at home Saturday night and told him: Get people out of New Orleans.

''I could never sleep if I felt like I didn't do everything that I could to impress upon people the gravity of the situation,'' Mayfield said. ``New Orleans is never going to be the same.''

When a grim Nagin issued the mandatory evacuation order Sunday, he said: ``We are facing a storm that most of us have feared . . . God bless us.''

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: blanco; cary; democratswrongagain; disasterprep; evacuation; hurricane; incompetence; incompetent; itsspelledlevee; katrina; katrinafailures; maxmayfield; mayor; nagin; neworleans
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To: hoboken109
I'm in Ca. and everyone I have spoke to thinks the Mayor and Governor is at fault and that they are trying to cover their butts. The crowd was about 50/50 dems and republicans.
281 posted on 09/03/2005 6:30:44 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: trubluolyguy
with over 200 busses sitting in a parking lot all weekend before the storm hit.

This is the picture that can't be denied. The picture of those buses underwater. Not Al Gore, not Hillary, not nogginhead....none will ever escape the damage of that one picture alone.

282 posted on 09/03/2005 6:31:44 PM PDT by Fishtalk (Pop Culture and Political Pundit-http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

You're a lot more optimistic than I am about it my friend. I still say the bulk of the US gets all their news from the MSM. People are amazed when I tell then things that are general knowledge on FR. You can't believe how many times I hear" I never heard that , really ! "


283 posted on 09/03/2005 6:33:27 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: 1035rep

in CA home of the loony left ?


284 posted on 09/03/2005 6:34:01 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: hoboken109

"in CA home of the loony left ?"

Yes, so keep me in your prayers :)


285 posted on 09/03/2005 6:36:04 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Laughing.
But I agree with your observation.


286 posted on 09/03/2005 6:36:30 PM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: carl in alaska
What was the 2004 Ivan debacle in New Orleans? I didn't hear much about that.

In case no one else answered your question yet, read this and be amazed: 1 YEAR AGO "Ivan exposes flaws in N.O.'s disaster plans" Mayor & Gov. fail to learn lesson. Don't blame me if your blood begins to boil.

287 posted on 09/03/2005 6:37:18 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: 1035rep
I'm in Ca. and everyone I have spoke to thinks the Mayor and Governor is at fault and that they are trying to cover their butts.

Man I'm glad you posted this.

Because for all the Bush bashing allegedly going on, I've received the same anecdotal feedback.

Most folks I know think the Mayor first, then the Governor, are to blame for the initial failure. Not to mention that picture of those buses underwater which I can't say enough about. Pics being worth a thousand words and all thatl

Sure the guilty parties lined up early to place the blame.

What was Noggenhead, Elijah from Merryland, Sharpton, Jackson et all going to do?

Did you really think they were going to step up to the plate and admit the failure of their thinking? It's a form of damage control is all. I don't see Hillary or Teddy standing with them. They know it's not going to wash.

288 posted on 09/03/2005 6:37:20 PM PDT by Fishtalk (Pop Culture and Political Pundit-http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

The President called him and advised him to issue an evacuation order. The governor of Louisiana mentioned publicly the president's call. In the Mayor's own words later he said "we may have a mandatory evacuation order by morning." The director of the National Hurricane Center called him as well pleading with him to issue the order. The Mayor said earlier that he was worried about the legality of issuing a mandatory evacuation order. You can imagine what the President's response would be if the Mayor mentioned legal hurdles during their phone call.


289 posted on 09/03/2005 6:38:11 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Echo Talon
Can this guy be removed from power,

Why bother?

We took his city away from him.

He's the Mayor of NOthing

290 posted on 09/03/2005 6:38:26 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: joinedafterattack

but as usual it is all bushes fault


291 posted on 09/03/2005 6:38:29 PM PDT by proudCArepublican
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To: longshadow

Save that thing. It would save a lot of work when the indictment is written.


292 posted on 09/03/2005 6:41:02 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Fishtalk

Give Klinton And Kennedy time..you'll hear their big mouths..Wait till congress ( useless to the man ) conducts an investigation into the hurricane..It will be a Bush bash fest and it will be on TV 24/7


293 posted on 09/03/2005 6:41:46 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: Torie
He will get on the bench in relative obscurity. He will not be a household name.

Isn't that a good thing?

294 posted on 09/03/2005 6:46:10 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: hoboken109
You're a lot more optimistic than I am about it my friend.

I am.

Because with each incident, be it a lying ommission-commission report, an attack on our country, now a huge natural disaster, each and every time a few thousand, a few hundred thousand, somewhere, get a new mindset.

It doesn't happen across the fruited plains that 285 million people suddenly "get it".

This hurricane is so very, very different.

Quite a few people in this country live near an area affected by such natural disasters. THIS is something that affects us average guys, whether it be a horrific tornado, a devistating earthquake or hurricanes from hell that have affected so many Americans through the years.

So many of us could be affected by such a thing and THIS factoid makes people pay attentions. Mothers across the land see the flood, the wrecked homes, the devistated lives. They worry about their children and the procedures to protect them in such a diaster.

Americans will be paying attention is what I'm saying here. Punctuated by the endless visuals and the stories to come about the days after the disaster. WE all understand the devistation of a life where EVERYTHING is lost.

We also all understand, just with a moment of thought, just where or who would WE look to for help during such an emergency? It's a LOCAL thing you understand.

We see the visuals of the army coming in, we see the helicoptors rescuing victims from roofs, no mind their color.

They can SAY what they want. We KNOW what we see.

295 posted on 09/03/2005 6:46:39 PM PDT by Fishtalk (Pop Culture and Political Pundit-http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Traffic jams on the bridge. They refused to let vehicles use some lanes coming from the other direction, leaving hundreds of cars stuck on the roadway. Stupid. They could have used some of those lanes to transport people out on buses.


296 posted on 09/03/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Fishtalk
I did not hear one bad thing spoken about our President. This was a large gathering and the two loudest were black females talking about Jackson and Sharpton always trying to grab the spotlight and elevate themselves.
297 posted on 09/03/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: HIDEK6
I am not sure. It depends how well Roberts does in his hearings. I looked to him to be a teacher of the public square about the Constitution. The guy is incredibly smart and informed and "nuanced" on Constitutional issues. Bork talked about an intellectual feast, but Roberts is the beef, in this age of sharp and pointed questions, which will be directed to SCOTUS nominees.
298 posted on 09/03/2005 6:50:35 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Fishtalk
...away from the keyboard for a few minutes...

"Going to take a nagin."

When I come back, I'm going to suggest that the Superdome be renamed the Naginbowl.

299 posted on 09/03/2005 6:51:22 PM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Echo Talon

Thats great! Good work. :)


300 posted on 09/03/2005 6:55:28 PM PDT by No Blue States
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