Posted on 09/02/2005 4:14:33 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
With so many reports and stories over race and demographics in New Orleans, a demographic snapshot is in order to inject some facts into the discussions.
Ineach of the three data points below, the first figure is New Orleans, the second figure is Louisiana, the third figure is the USA average.
GENDER
Pct New Orleans ... Pct Louisanna ... Pct USA
Male 46.9 48.4 49.1
Female 53.1 51.6 50.9
The female to male ratio is higher in NO than both the Louisiana Average and the USA average. (Notice all the single moms in the photos).
AGE 15 or younger
Pct N.O. ... Pct LA ... Pct USA
22.2 22.4 21.4
Age 16-24
15.9 15.5 13.9
Contrary to what many may think after watching the images, NO is actually younger as a city than the national average age.
Age 65 +
Pct N.O.... Pct LA ... Pct USA
11.7 11.6 12.4
Again, fewer old people than national average.
RACE AND ETHNICITY
Pct N.O... Pct LA ... Pct USA
Whites 28.1 63.9 75.1
Black or African American
67.3 32.5 12.3
American Indian and Alaska native
0.2 0.6 0.9
Asian 2.3 1.2 3.6
The 2.3% of Asians in N.O. is roughly 11,000 people in the city proper.
Hispanic or Latino
3.1 2.4 12.5
There are roughly 15,000 Hispanic/Latins in N.O.
Some other race
0.9 0.7 5.5
Education:
Boy, what a surprise here. Check this out:
Bachelor's Degree
Pct N.O ... Pct LA ... Pct USA
15.0 12.2 15.5
Masters, Professional or Doctorate Degree
10.7 6.5 8.9
That's right! N.O has a HIGHER percentage than the national average. Considerign the images shown, this will surprise many.
Median Household Income
Pct N.O. ... Pct LA ... Pct USA
$27,133 $32,566 $41,994
New Orleans is a VERY poor city compared to USA average.
However, .......
Per capita Income Whites
Pct N.O Pct LA Pct USA
$31,971 $20,488 $23,918
The whites in New Orleans have a higher per capita income than the USA average for whites.
Per capita income blacks:
$11,332 $10,166 $14,437
The blacks have a LOWER percapita income than the blacks' average across the USA.
The percapita income for Asians is substantially lower ($13,826) than for the average Asian in the USA ($21,823).
Marital Status:
Wow! The percentage of males who never married in N.O is 43.7 % versus the USA percentage of 30.3%.
Females it is 38.6% versus USA average of 24.1%--they just don't get married much in New Orleans. A high percentage of people on welfare correlates with this fact.
Transportation to Work by Public Transportation:
13.7% for New Orleans versus the USA average of 4.7%.
There are other demographics you can search at this link:
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/incomeCommute.php?locIndex=3502
Intelligent posts are always so interesting to read.
So are posts with facts.
THX for your excellent input.
Pictures paint it.
Thanks and sorry for my tirade.
Good points.
The posts #54 and #34 address the important issue of how demographics prove that there should have been enough busses to evacuate the people--it is clear from these facts that Mayor "Numnut" Nagin is the #1 cause for this tragedy. The people could have been evacuated--they had the bus system to do that, and the mayor could have used the police force to nip looting in the bud before it spread. There were plenty of city engineers, firemen, librarians, trash haulers, etc. to do the resuce work. The policemen SHOULD HAVE been doing the security work. This is Nagin's tragedy.
The per capita income of blacks does not include Earned Income Credit, Food Stamps, Section 8 Housing and a number of other federal programs. Your "demographics" are meaningless.
Don't forget to add that the "mayor" isn't even in his city.
While his constituency suffers, he is in Baton Rouge, cursing Bush.
Numnuts is dead on.
Fact: Food and Water should have been Airlifted into NO within hours of the Levees breaking and it becoming obvious how difficult it would be for help to arrive via ground.
I presume you mean "because of" instead of "still"?
Socialism and collectivism which create mobs are the root causes.
Again, I presume you're equating the "Great Society" with socialism/collectivism? And what is the mechanism that yields the mob, group, me-against-thee culture since socialism generally gives rise to only two classes/groups?
You may be on to something but I can't stretch far enough to make the connection.
FGS
Your point is meaningless. That figure was compared to the USA average. It is apples to apples. How did you miss the obvious?
Fact: President Bush, the Governors of Mississippi and Louisiana, and Alabama and the Mayors of the larger towns and cities, Members of Congress should move into the affected areas and set up living and working command and control centers.
Yes, the President should move to New Orleans with additional temporary "White House" locations in MS and AL. Of course all necessary and prudent security should be transfered, as well, along with the fullest possible communications technologies. The President and the others should be seen pitching in physically for some time every day doing some volunteer rescue activities, such as handing out food and water, patroling with the NG, etc.
This would demonstrate the extraordinary leadership based on real empathy and compassion, that is essential.
It would also make it possible to provide leadership based on truly holding the entire chain of command of every level of government responsible for turning the disaster around with no inexcusable delay tolerated.
This action would do more than anything else to turn the mob psychology that has resulted in so many horrible acts to be doused and to rekindle the better angels of the human nature in all the suffering souls in the region.
Fact: New Orleans and all other cities, towns, and villages that require rebuilding must not be rebuilt as they were, where they were.
New cities should be built from the ground up. The new cities can then be built according to the best scientific principles of site planning, architecture, engineering, city planning, infrastructure, communications, energy, and transport, etc.
This is how lemonade can be made from lemons.
Frankly, your "demographics" are full of crap.
Apples and apples? BS. Add in all of the bennies and see how the poor are relative to those who are working for a living. Really working.
Right.....whatever, like there was food, water and airplanes standing by already loaded for a disaster that wasn't supposed to be happining because New Orleans "dodged a bullet". Try a real FACT, the number of people who remained in New Orleans would be overwhelming for relief even IF the levees didn't break. One more FACT, citizens who remained in New Orleans VOLUNTARILY should have ensured they had food and water for at least 3 days. But since the government didn't supply it, they must not have needed it.
Fact: Yes, the people who stayed should have stocked up on the basics, but it does alter the reality, that once it was clear how many people needed help (regardless of whose fault it is) and how hard it would be to provide help in a timely way on the ground, then an air solution should have begun.
The same food and water that has been arriving via ground, but belatedly, could have been delivered more efficiently by air more quickly.
"does" should be "does not"
You have a mental block, pal. The percentages are being compared to the same classification to the national average. Did you flunk math? Did you flunk common sense? If the NO people get "bennies" in a particular class, so do the other people in the USA in that same class get "bennies".
Your head is as hard as titanium. Why don't you understand that? For gawd's sakes, why don't you understand this simple demographic data? Did you look at the link on the source website?
Why don't you private email me so we can discuss this--no sense polluting this thread if you don't understand this simple demogrpahic data. Write to me privately and I will help you out.
An Air solution has begun, planes began brining supplies yesterday, the day before the air force was readying the runway to accept planes. That means that ummm, Tuesday the day the levees broke, an Air Solution had begun.
I guess we should use your timeline: Levee breaks, planes land. Try to be more realistic in your expectations, it's just as hard to provide help from the air.
Around the world, for decades, the US has brought food, water, and other supplies in by parachute when runways are not available or are not safe.
The solution in NO should have been to parachute the necessities in at the earliest possible moment that it became clear that all other alternatives would allow the situation to degrade drastically through added delay.
A possibility, but I'd venture they did not do that because of logistical support.
Without logistical support on the ground the supplies either don't get distributed, or wind up in the hands of the armed "looters" who would undoubtedly use it to increase their strenght, ala Somali warlords.
I'm 100% certain all of these ideas were thought of and discussed, and ultimately the decison was made to execute in the manner we are seeing now. Most likely the determining factor was the extreme number of people who remained during a "mandatory" evacutaion.
If you want to blame anyone blame the mayor, the governor, and most of all the slackers who didn't evacuate. Had all those with the abilty to leave left, the resources would most likely have been plentiful for those remaining.
NO was a lovely city. (Yeah, I know ... but the white guys with degrees could afford to live in the good parts.)
My co-worker is one of those professor-dudes. (He's fine and his house survived (he's a couple of blocks outside of the Quarter), but his race car is under 7 feet of water right now! Although, at least he knows exactly where it is and that it won't be looted or "commandeered!") He might not ever be able to return to live in the city he loves, and that's just depressing.
Anyhow, NO was a unique American treasure - it doesn't surprise me at all that people who could afford to live there chose to live there. If I were a handsomely-paid college professor, I might just have chosen to live there, too. Alas, I am but a lowly web-slinger and must continue to live in sunny Florida. Sigh ...
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