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"The Begining of Our Nightmare" -- Personal Account from New Orleans **It's worse than you think!**
e-mail | 9/2/2005 | Per Guenevere's e-mail

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:49:29 PM PDT by Guenevere

This e-mail received in the past hour from a local couple who just escaped from New Orleans. They wanted to stress how poorly Louisiana's Democratic controlled government handled the situation...

My husband and I have an unbelievable story about the situation in New Orleans.

We were stranded tourists that ended up stranded due to Delta canceling our flight on Sunday at 11:25am. That was the beginning of our nightmare.

We were in a city we weren't all that familiar (where are the stores, no local knowledge, no local network) and were unable to leave. I won't spend time discussing having to stay in the midst of a category 4 hurricane (something we would NEVER do, being from Florida and being wise to hurricanes). But what is more upsetting is what happened to us afterwards...........

We were staying in a small hotel 3 blocks off of Canal on Tchopotoulis Street in the Warehouse/Art District. This hotel did not have a generator, nor did it have any provisions for food. We were on our own.

For 2 days, we did our best on the streets trying to scrounge some water and food and tried our best to find out how to get these supplies and more importantly, to get back to the airport when it opened (we were under the false hope that the airport would open and we would somehow fly out when that happened).

Tuesday was the beginning of our delusion fading and the quick realization of what was coming. We saw the looters going into the athletic store on Canal (while Brian Williams was doing a segment for the nightly news) and the police exerted minimal effort to stop this as we came to realize - they had no where to put the looters/criminals. That was probably the first of our realization that those in charge (which still trying to figure out just who is), is not doing anything and planning for anything. There is absolutely NO LEADERSHIP.

But we did our best to endure the heat, no AC, the little food that we could get and talked to as many people as possible to get any information we could. We at least had a hotel room. When ever we asked the National Guard and police where was the help, the water, the food, all they could say was "it is coming" and be happy as we were in the driest part of the city and "the water is coming" (meaning the levy broke).

On Wednesday, we were desperate, out of food, out of water, and could not now flush a toilet. My husband and I set out on our morning walk to Canal Street to see the news media (that was the only way we could learn anything). We realized that there were less people that day. As much as we wanted to leave the media alone to do their job, we were increasingly frustrated as to how they obviously had water and probably food. How come? Where was ours. My husband finally asked one of the crew (no one would even give us eye contact at that point -(Side note - we are in our 40s, white and friendly looking). how they got in - as we were figuring that one of the reasons there was not any support and more supplies was the roads were still down. That guy told us that they drove in from Tampa and they had no problem coming in. Then where are the supplies? Where is the Red Cross?

We were dumfounded, but knew we had to leave as soon as possible - if we had to walk.

We saw some buses at the W Hotel and asked if we could go, we would pay whatever necessary. They were full and were taking guests/families out of the W and the Sheraton hotels. Sorry. What?????? We could not believe this. We ran around and asked the police again when is anyone coming? "They are coming; they are bringing in buses to the Superdome and busing people out to Houston". (We did not go to the Dome as the Mayor said that was for people with special needs and for hotel guests to stay put). But we could now possibly walk there (we still heard there was water up to the dome, but we could go there and wait for buses).

Somewhere around this time, we saw another police person and as a pharmacist I told him I was concerned about the people that were going without meds and I would volunteer to go into the Walgreen’s on Canal (the looters had already broken into the front part for supplies) and if a police personnel was there I could dispense and emergency supply to anyone showing a Rx bottle with maintenance medications. He said the supplies "are coming". I got very angry and said they need to be here NOW. He asked for a suggestion and I said I already told him mine. He said that would take a lot - we would have to get approval from Walgreen’s corporate, yada yada. I said, can't you see out here, this is like a 3rd world country. Walgreen’s won't care; they'd love the publicity (I work for the competitor CVS and I know they would feel the same way). They want patients to have meds. The policeman said even if they could do it, he had no way to get any kind of "approval" for something like that as they all had no communication. What?????????????

We got very annoyed, depressed and made the short trek to the Convention Center to see about any person in charge to see if there was any medical, buses, water, food, etc. We went there and there was NOTHING except for people waiting. We tried to ask for anyone in charge, who knew anything and there was NO ONE. (By the way, the national guardsmen that we had seen earlier that morning, 3 hours later still did not know anything or give us any other information).

We could not believe. But we knew one thing; we were getting out anyway possible. I felt like the people who were going down the steps of the World Trade Center thinking they were really going anywhere when in reality our fate was set and officials had sacrificed all of us left in the city.

We called collect to my mother in law and I unleashed a lot of tears of frustration and she told us some obvious: Look for someone in charge - we did that THERE WAS NO ONE (she did not believe) Ask police and national guard - we did that also - no information

She said buses were coming. I said that was not true - there were no buses, there was NO water, NO food, NOTHING, unlike the TV was showing her of all of the relief that was "coming". Where were they?

She told us to hang in there, she was going to stay glued to the TV and we could call her back.

As prayers were being raised for us, about 45 minutes later we saw some people on the street near a few vehicles (we had already asked everyone that morning near a car if we could pay to go with them, never any room). These people took pity on us and allowed us into their hotel shelter. Come to realize this was the hotel the police had been staying in for the last several days. They had food, water, alcohol, generators. We could not believe our luck. We also could not believe what these people were now telling us about the looters. They were afraid. They also had pistols (I have never seen a pistol in my life). They were awaiting a SUV that a person was letting them take as he was not leaving. They promised us if they had enough room they would take us out of the city. We were elated.

At that point 4-5 policeman came back into get the rest of their clothes and belongings and said, we need to get out of there as the looters (gangs of New Orleans) had gotten guns from a store they broke into and they were coming this way. The policeman said he was getting out of there and would not be coming back as there was nothing they could do. He then asked how many weapons we all had, and for about 12 people there were only 3 guns. He gave the men 2 more guns, a shotgun and a pistol and said we would need it.............

I felt like we were in a Hollywood movie. Not that much longer as we awaited the SUV, another vehicle came and we all knew we needed to be ready to go at any moment. We all piled in the vehicle while the guys stood watch with the guns. We were transported then to another hotel about 2 blocks away. We were hurried out and told that we would not be able to fit into the vehicle they were getting but that we needed to get our names on the list that the guy was taking and we would be bused out. That was fine with us. We did that and within 1/2 hour we were on the bus, and heading out of the city.

I won't describe the looks on the faces of those who saw this bus as they knew someone was leaving and they were not. I was horrified for them. I wanted to let them on as they were walking over the bridge.

We asked where we were going and they told us, Baton Rouge. We got a cell signal and called our mother-in-law to tell her to book our flight on Delta to get out of Baton Rouge.

The bus was paid for by the Marriott Corp who was dedicated to getting their associates and guests out of the city. Rumor is the CEO or Mr. Marriott, or someone high up at Marriott got buses ready on Tuesday and had to get special permission from the governor to allow the buses in. They had to make more than one phone call to make that happen, but that is what they did.

They allowed all of us to stay in the ballroom. We decided to go to the airport and sleep there and hopefully get an earlier flight. That is what we did and we got back into Orlando today at 11am.

We had not been able to hear/see any of the news and were flabbergasted to see the Governor and that woman Senator get on TV and talk about all that they were doing. All of that is hogwash. They aren't doing anything for all those poor people there still in the city and nothing to stop the looting. I believe I saw prior to the hurricane that the Governor could go to the highest level and get the military to come in and take the security over and be in charge of such if she declares it to be at that state. Why has she not done?

We just got back from eating with my in-laws and my mother-in-law told us she frantically started calling everyone she could to get us some help in there. She told us something very scary, on Wed when she was calling at about 10:30am, she actually (you have to know her to know that only she could do this) got to talk to a man with the Red Cross with trucks, supplies, etc in their trucks only awaiting the Governor to allow them to get in.

My husband and I are exhausted as we haven't slept in days and are emotionally drained, but can't help but think if it weren't for the Grace of God and a little good timing, we would still have been there. And today is one more day past and NOTHING HAS CHANGED. SOMETHING IS WRONG. There is no reason they don't have church buses that can come in and get these people, let the Red Cross in, let supplies in, etc..........

Please help them. Call us if you want even more details.

Thanks- God Bless- [name withheld]

Senator- My husband and I are absolutely disgusted with how you and your Governor have allowed such disarray to occur. Not to mention how you've left the tourists there for dead. Oh, yea and your own people who are dying in the streets.

There is NO EXCUSE for not getting reinforcements to the National Guard in earlier knowing the gang like undertones of your violence-tending city.

I remember the day when NOLA was not a favorite of travelers as it was considered "dirty and dangerous". My husband and I love NOLA and met there 16 years ago in college at the Sugar Bowl. We are sickened by what we personally went through and we are even more nauseated by what is happening even a day later as no more help has showed up.

What is the problem? We demand to know. You, your officials, your Governor owe us, your own citizens that you've left for dead an apology.

I couldn't believe what you were saying after not seeing/hearing the TV for over 3 days. I just hope the top of this e-mail that we've e-mailed to anyone who will listen will do some help.

If we lived within 6 hours of NOLA we would call all churches, get buses and drive through your barriers just to get these people OUT> All that FEMA can do later will be done. It is NOW that these people need help, or else who cares how many millions you all get donated.

Or, perhaps, is that the purpose? Are you all doing this for a reason and that is to let attrition happen and then there will be fewer victims to divide the money between. SHAMEFUL


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
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To: Real Cynic No More

I saw a report yesterday from a radio repair person who was being sent to New Orleans to help get the police communications system back up and running. He and his party were denied access to the city by state troopers!


81 posted on 09/02/2005 4:18:36 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: FatherofFive

re: don't know about Brit. Wasn't he ill?

That's Tony Snow who had surgery for cancer.


82 posted on 09/02/2005 4:21:34 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: ScreamingFist
I am going to be tough to the author of this e-mail.

For openers, what were you doing staying in New Orleans until after the airlines has suspended flights?

What were you doing while 400,000 plus New Orleans residents were getting the hell out of town?

Did you not take note of a shrinking number of people around and a general effort to leave the city?

What did you think that swirling cloud the size of the Gulf of Mexico was?

It was advertised exactly as what it was, a 165 mph killer storm. That was well known and broadcast widely for days before you decided you were having too much fun in New Orleans to let a lil' ol' hurricane spoil your fun.

I read the author of this sympathy appeal is from Florida.

Anyone from Florida who doesn't take a hurricane seriously ain't too bright.

In short, you are a couple of fools who are very lucky to be alive.

The answer to the question, "Who is in charge?" is quite simple.

When it comes to saving your own life, You Are In Charge!

83 posted on 09/02/2005 4:21:57 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Howlin

reference ping, another testimonial of a state gov. roadblock.


84 posted on 09/02/2005 4:22:02 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat (Only the Mediacrats can save us now! Just ask them...)
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To: snowsislander
Kudos to Marriott; this was well done indeed on their part.

Yes.  It certainly was.

Rumor circulating around here is Academy, which had four stores in New Orleans, gave keys to the police, told them to take all the weapons in stock, and on the way out to leave the doors open for people to take what they needed.

85 posted on 09/02/2005 4:22:04 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse
Give it up. You're not the only one with a personal history.

LOL! You like to interject your opinion into a discussion not posted to you and then have the audacity to tell someone to give it up. That's some weak B.S. buddy....

86 posted on 09/02/2005 4:26:00 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: OpusatFR

Somebody had control of the checkpoint(s). Ought to be pretty clear who, after the situation settles down.


87 posted on 09/02/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: adam_az
Mayor

On the radio this morning cursing (G__D__) Bush, Tsunami victims, and Iraq. F___U mayor.

88 posted on 09/02/2005 4:32:49 PM PDT by j_tull
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To: Guenevere

Kudos to the Marriott. Some businesses are better than others. I was in FLA, had to leave early b/c Georges was coming, and the only chain that didn't gouge on the prices was Hampton Inn. I remembered that. I'll remember Marriott, too...


89 posted on 09/02/2005 4:35:51 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: ScreamingFist
That's some weak B.S. buddy....

I don't have your needs, tomodachi.

90 posted on 09/02/2005 4:38:41 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Guenevere

This is the result of a huge centralized government where the feds are seen as the providers of everything. Everybody is so conditioned to looking to Washington to make a decision that if tthey can't get hold of the federal bureaucrats then NOBODY makes any decision at all!


91 posted on 09/02/2005 4:41:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
When it comes to saving your own life, You Are In Charge!

I've always believed that NCLA. But on this thread and many others, people are being taken to task for holding that opinion. Nanny government will SAVE ME......they PROMISED! I was waiting for a BUS! It's not MY FAULT! I'm amazed, thousands died because of the "government said so" mentality and there are hundreds of posters on FR defending that position. I truly don't understand....

92 posted on 09/02/2005 4:43:24 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I was just reading an old article from Monday mornings's newspaper (before the hurricane hit) that was left in the "reading room".

"... tourists...packed the lobbies of high-rise hotels, which were exempt from the evacuation order to give people a place for "vertical evacuation."

Granted, I'd have left sooner. But, it sounds like they were told "you'll be safe here".


93 posted on 09/02/2005 4:45:57 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: Racehorse
I don't have your needs, tomodachi.

Don't take it personal, i'm spun up today. I don't like tens of thousands of deaths any more than you. We are no longer the independent survivors the American people used to be.......

94 posted on 09/02/2005 4:59:57 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

"For openers, what were you doing staying in New Orleans until after the airlines has suspended flights?"

From what this woman said on the radio, apparenlty they were scheduled to leave on a Sunday morning flight, but Delta then cancelled the flight. From then on they were looking for a way out (although I would have flagged down a car, a taxi, or anything else, and offered them whatever it took to get me to Houston, or even just to Jackson, LA.)


95 posted on 09/02/2005 5:04:37 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
As someone has already pointed out...

..and I might suggest you didn't read that closely...

..the couple had a flight out on Sunday, ....and it was cancelled.

Would you care to restate your words?

96 posted on 09/02/2005 5:18:51 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: hardworking
I believe your assessment is correct. Police and even soldiers are just human. They are no better equipped -- in many cases -- to handle such catastrophe than the ordinary citizen. Yet their position of authority leads people to believe they are, and to rely on their solutions when they shouldn't.

Times of crisis destroy the cultural "needs" hierarchy, and debase civilization to mere survival. In those circumstances, a cop is probably less a benefit than a detriment if he adheres compulsivley to process rather than principle.

There comes a time when it's proper to discard the niceties and "git 'er done." If that means feeding your family, protecting your shelter, or fighting off bands of two-legged predators, then that's how it is.

97 posted on 09/02/2005 5:30:35 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: geopyg
"... tourists...packed the lobbies of high-rise hotels, which were exempt from the evacuation order to give people a place for "vertical evacuation."

While I was in NO last month, there were two hurricane warnings (one degenerated into a TS and the other veered off). The "hurricane plan" everybody had in mind was to check into a high-rise hotel and party out the storm. This was their "vertical evacuation".

98 posted on 09/02/2005 5:42:26 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Guenevere

The last time I was in NOLA was 16 years ago at the Sugar Bowl. The game was fun, but the city was a dirty, rotten place that allows little children to go beg tourists for money on a good day. What do they expect those children to do on a bad day?


99 posted on 09/02/2005 5:43:58 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Guenevere

Thank you for that powerful personal story.


100 posted on 09/02/2005 5:56:50 PM PDT by ElderEdda
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