Posted on 09/02/2005 5:40:24 AM PDT by Dog
President to speak at 9am ...
Since perception is what drives public opinion (and believe me I'm in a position to say you're 100% correct), why are you purposely or accidentally helping to perpetuate the perception of the president as incompetent and "out to lunch" via your posts?
The changes in response today are very positive. The rule of the thugs is over.
Sorry New York. You worry too much about media slickness. It's a weakness.
HitmanNY is either a liberal troll, or a Buchananite, or a moronic third party voters, but I guess nowadays they are all a piece of crap split into three.
It wouldn't have occurred to me and I can't for the life of me figure out why they're doing it now. It's shocking and disgusting.
Exactly, I'll bet Hillary would have the entire military there the day after the hurricane.
And she gets good press too!
Hillary in 08!
Or maybe even you can run in 08.
That's total BS and you know it.
Monday night, it appeared NO had dodged a big bullet. All of the networks were trumpeting the good news. You had to have had your head in the sand to not have heard about it.
I stand by my statement that you joined FR today as a seminar poster with the agenda of bashing President Bush. You're just a little more subtle than some of the merry band of trolls trotting around here today. Nice try.
The Pres says the results are not acceptable. The Div of Labor has just created 10,000 cleanup jobs with the money they were given. Some Depts are going to do well in the performance review. Some are not. The Pres is demanding effective action from his Cabinet, and heads will roll if they do not respond immediately. Count on it. He won't need Donald Trump to come in and say 'You're fired!'
That is an ignorant general statement. Of course they are prepared, but they don't have a magic wand to fix everything instantly.
It takes time to move assets and establish communications, evaluate the situation, formulate a plan.
It is being disingenuous to pretend that without an effective local disaster relief plan the feds could come into a situation where two major disasters (hurricane & flood) happened simultaneously and immediately fix everything.
Any fool can say it could have been done better or quicker.
I keep having to give this civics lesson on most of these idiotic threads:
Louisiana is a sovereign state. It has an executive, the Governor. She's sort of the President down there.
The feds can't do a whole lot until the Governor of that state does what is legally necessary for the feds to act as they need to. For example, it is not legal for the federal government to use the Army in a law enforcement capacity - Posse Comitatus. It's a good law, and there for a reason.
The state can deputize the national guard as state police so that they can restore order.
For the record, Mississippi was hit harder by the storm and we aren't hearing much about that. Alabama lost Mobile and Biloxi. They've lost the bridges, refineries, ports, etc.
The reason is that the other two governors actually took advantages of ALL THE PREPARATIONS THAT THE FEDS set up prior to the storm hitting them.
All the docs that needed signing were signed. Alabama declared martial law about 15 minutes into the first night after the storm had passed. The governor had coordinated with FEMA to have supplies and manpower available and pre-staged toward the northern end of the state.
This thing is happening for one reason - Blanco. She should step down and let the adults handle this.
....remember the riots in Detroit in 1967?
....the Rodney King episode?
Why people are soooo surprised and can't put the blame where it belongs is no surprise to me, they couldn't then either!
This is all making me sick; I'm running low on compassion today.
I'm sick of ungrateful people.
It could be more effective. Any fool can see that. Pres Bush should fire someone in the Cabinet, now.
So, you're not actually ging to answer the question? I did not ask you what what has not HAPPENED, I'm asking what you think The Feds have not DONE. Do you or do you not agree that FEMA must abide by the Constitution? If you agree, then FEMA, the NG, and the regular military have done pretty much all they can do until the gov't of the state of LA requests Federal Jurisdiction.
Part of FEMA's preparation is the very good assumption and REQUIREMENT that the local authorities must be part of the team. They've refused to play their part, and now you want the Feds to start override the Constitutional protections? Your anguish is blinding you to reality.
Homeland security is not about the West Nile virus, tornados, hurricanes, floods, heat stroke, gas prices, etc. Homeland Security is about SECURITY. When have they ever had to respond to a hurricane before? Maybe I missed it.
I don't get you guys who are totally ramped. You are the verbal snipers -- when people are doing their best in a dreadful situation, you guys (many, not just you) are taking them out with sniper fire. How is that different than the depraved idiots who shot at the helicoptors on top of Tulane hospital?
Oh, watching the military taking over today is what we've been waiting for and needing. Desperately. I have faith in the military; it's getting them where they need to be that we can't any of us ever wait for.
My comment about not having faith is that most of us couldn't have held out against the rapes and murderous SOB's without food and water for so long. We have to watch out for ourselves.
My POINT is that you are presenting New orleans as the definitive marker of Homeland security while ignoring the vast majority of cities and states that are under control. Why is that? Why do you choose one city, only one, that is a disaster zone to denounce HS completely?
In point of fact what it says to ME is the vast number of our officials elsewhere are competant and able to rise to the expectations. The officials in new Orleans direct to Governor were not. Does this introduce a chink in HS? Absolutely. But it doesn't cast it as a failure in sum. What it does show is that we need procedures to assess those that are incompetant in advance, and to override in case of emergency which would mean more federalization which some people would have a heart attack over. But clearly had we been able to override the Governor and mayor a few days ago some of these problems could have been lessoned.
MISS isn't having these problems. Alabama isn't having these problems. Other parts of LA, that coincidentally, have high REP voting rates seem self sufficient. This tells me the most vulnerable chinks in our armor are apparently areas like New Orleans or, my inclusion, Seattle where incompetance is rampant at a political level.
Overreaction. The people who hate and attack W can't get any more nasty. They can't attack him more than they already have been. Sounds as if some, like Joe Voter and You, might be swayed by the MSMs spin that "its all Bush's fault."
Yes I do.The Mayor and the Governor aren't leading. If the SS had it's way, Bush would not have left his nuclear command bunker on 9-11. He left and did a great job. The SS and the National Guard should be able to secure an area for him in NO. If they can't, the President needs to know that also.....
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