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Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans
ap ^ | 8/31/05 | By ADAM NOSSITER, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/31/2005 8:34:26 PM PDT by Flavius

EW ORLEANS - With thousands feared drowned in what could be America's deadliest natural disaster in a century, New Orleans' leaders all but surrendered the streets to floodwaters Wednesday and began turning out the lights on the ruined city — perhaps for months. ADVERTISEMENT

Looting spiraled so out of control that Mayor Ray Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts and focus on the brazen packs of thieves who have turned increasingly hostile.

Nagin also called for an all-out evacuation of the city's remaining residents. Asked how many people died, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands."

With most of the city under water, Army engineers struggled to plug New Orleans' breached levees with giant sandbags and concrete barriers, and authorities drew up plans to clear out the tens of thousands of remaining people and practically abandon the below-sea-level city.

Nagin said there will be a "total evacuation of the city. We have to. The city will not be functional for two or three months." And he said people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.

If the mayor's death-toll estimate holds true, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which have blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.

An exodus from the Superdome began Wednesday as the first of nearly 25,000 refugees left the miserable surroundings of the football stadium to be transported in a caravan of buses to the Astrodome in Houston, 350 miles away. The conditions in the Superdome had become horrendous: There was no air conditioning, the toilets were backed up, and the stench was so bad that medical workers wore masks as they walked around.

In Mississippi, bodies are starting to pile up at the morgue in hard-hit Harrison County. Forty corpses have brought to the morgue already, and officials expect the death toll in the county to climb well above 100.

Tempers were beginning to flare. Police said a man fatally shot his sister in the head over a bag of ice in Hattiesburg, Miss.

President Bush flew over New Orleans and parts of Mississippi's hurricane-blasted coastline in Air Force One. Turning to his aides, he said: "It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be doubly devastating on the ground."

"We're dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history," Bush said later in a televised address from the White House, which most victims could not see because power remains out to 1 million Gulf Coast residents.

The federal government dispatched helicopters, warships and elite SEAL water-rescue teams in one of the biggest relief operations in U.S. history, aimed at plucking residents from rooftops in the last of the "golden 72 hours" rescuers say is crucial to saving lives.

As fires burned from broken natural-gas mains, the skies above the city buzzed with National Guard and Coast Guard helicopters frantically dropping baskets to roofs where victims had been stranded since the storm roared in with a 145-mph fury Monday. Atop one apartment building, two children held up a giant sign scrawled with the words: "Help us!"

Looters used garbage cans and inflatable mattresses to float away with food, blue jeans, tennis shoes, TV sets — even guns. Outside one pharmacy, thieves commandeered a forklift and used it to push up the storm shutters and break through the glass. The driver of a nursing-home bus surrendered the vehicle to thugs after being threatened.

Police said their first priority remained saving lives, and mostly just stood by and watched the looting. But Nagin later said the looting had gotten so bad that stopping the thieves became the top priority for the police department.

"They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas — hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said in a statement to The Associated Press.

Hundreds of people wandered up and down shattered Interstate 10 — the only major freeway leading into New Orleans from the east — pushing shopping carts, laundry racks, anything they could find to carry their belongings.

On some of the few roads that were still open, people waved at passing cars with empty water jugs, begging for relief. Hundreds of people appeared to have spent the night on a crippled highway.

Nagin, whose pre-hurricane evacuation order got most of his city of a half a million out of harm's way, estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people remained, and said that 14,000 to 15,000 a day could be evacuated in ensuing convoys.

"We have to," Nagin said. "It's not living conditions."

He also expressed concern about people staying in the water: "People walking in that water with those dead bodies, it can get in your pores, you don't have to drink it."

In addition to the Astrodome solution, the Federal Emergency Management Agency was considering putting people on cruise ships, in tent cities, mobile home parks, and so-called floating dormitories.

The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.

Around midday, officials with the state and the Army Corps of Engineers said the water levels between the city and Lake Pontchartrain had equalized, and water had stopped spilling into New Orleans, and even appeared to be falling. But the danger was far from over.

The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone as early as Wednesday night into the 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall.

But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.

In Washington, the Bush administration decided to release crude oil from the federal petroleum reserves after Katrina knocked out 95 percent of the Gulf of Mexico's output. But because of the disruptions and damage to the refineries, gasoline prices surged above $3 a gallon in many parts of the country.

The death toll has reached at least 110 in Mississippi alone. But the full magnitude of the disaster had been unclear for days — in part, because some areas in both coastal Mississippi and New Orleans are still unreachable, but also because authorities' first priority has been the living.

In Mississippi, for example, ambulances roamed through the passable streets of devastated places such as Biloxi, Gulfport, Waveland and Bay St. Louis, in some cases speeding past corpses in hopes of saving people trapped in flooded and crumbled buildings.

State officials said Nagin's guess of thousands dead seemed plausible.

Lt. Kevin Cowan of the state Office of Emergency Preparedness said it is too soon to say with any accuracy how many died. But he noted that since thousands of people had been rescued from roofs and attics, it could be assumed that there were lots of others who were not saved.

"You have a limited number of resources, for an unknown number of evacuees. It's already been several days. You've had reports there are casualties. You all can do the math," he said.

On the flooded streets of New Orleans, dozens of fishermen from up to 200 miles away floated in on caravans of boats to pull residents out.

One of those rescued was 40-year-old Kevin Montgomery, who spent three days shuttling between the attic of a one-story home and a canopy he built on the roof.

Every once in a while, Mongtomery would see a body float by. But he cannot swim and had to fight the urge to wade in and tie them down.

"It was terrible," he said. "All I could do was pass them by and hope that God takes care of the rest of that."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; katrina; neworleans; no
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To: Flavius

If you have ever been to New Orleans, there are many places you would not want to walk through on a sunny dry day. Take a wrong turn off the Interstate and you get an eye full.

That particular area downtown (superdone and surroundings) is abolutely the worst...every major city in the nation has one just like it. The welfare underclass and poor live there.

Today that area was the focus of all of this. Because that's where all the people that stayed in the city were. People who had no where to go or those that expected someone else to take them somewhere.

There are other parts of New Orleans where the chaos you saw on TV is not happening. But of course, that would not be news.

IMHO, What I don't think these people have realized yet is that they will not be going back there to live. Everything is going to be plowed down and it will all be gentrified. No one is going to rebuild a shack on that real estate.


61 posted on 09/01/2005 2:58:58 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: expatguy
Im guessing 40,000 dead

The first couple of days after 911 people on TV were saying there coudl be as many as 10-20K killed.

Some here on FR insisted it was 20,000 dead.

If there were 40,000 dead, Sheppard Smith would have been chasing bodies in the water all day long. Instead he was not able to find one, though they tried to make it sound like they were just out of view.

I am not saying there was not a tragic loss of life. I just don't think it is going to reach "biblical proportions".

62 posted on 09/01/2005 3:04:15 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Alberta's Child
Years from now, we'll look back fondly on Hurricane Katrina and remember it as the largest toilet flush in the history of mankind.

Second largest (first one was the flood of Noah)

63 posted on 09/01/2005 3:06:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Drew68
This is America and it looks like f*****g Mogadishu!

That is an insult to Mogadishu.

64 posted on 09/01/2005 3:07:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: MHT

I think it wouldn't be hard to tell the difference between these and the drowned.


65 posted on 09/01/2005 3:11:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: djf

OK, and just how to get it out if no water pressure and all faucets are well under the flood waters anyhow?


66 posted on 09/01/2005 3:13:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Jalapeno

Many trapped in houses, I would think.


67 posted on 09/01/2005 3:14:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Flavius

I would pray and hope in the end here, that common sense prevails when it comes to spending serious time and treasure to rebuild a city 12 ft below sea level........


68 posted on 09/01/2005 3:17:14 AM PDT by mo
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To: Flavius
Police said a man fatally shot his sister in the head over a bag of ice in Hattiesburg, Miss.

This scares the crap out of me. My sisters husband is headed for Hattiesburg with a small load of generators and supplies.

How bad is it in Hattiesburg?
69 posted on 09/01/2005 3:18:55 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

yeah i should be assisting in the relief shortly

kind of puts a damper on things when you wonder if you should pack extra socks or extra ammo..

makes me really think about the career choice ...


70 posted on 09/01/2005 3:23:00 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Nathan Zachary

bttt


71 posted on 09/01/2005 3:23:12 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: A2J
If the death toll exceeds 500, I'll be shocked.

Get ready to be shocked. We'll be lucky if it's under 5,000.

72 posted on 09/01/2005 3:23:12 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: brwnsuga
"All I see are throngs of black faces running wild in the streets. "

Most people know it is not the color of the skin that brings out this type of behavior.
In other words Blacks don't have a lock on despicable behavior. Read my tag line.
There is nobody any lower than the Kennedy Family who got their wealth by selling bootleg whiskey, then have the gall to call themselves respectable.

73 posted on 09/01/2005 3:27:58 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Kennedy=Bootlegger+Murderer.)
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To: Flavius

I won't type what I'm thinking. I hate being so cynical.


74 posted on 09/01/2005 3:27:59 AM PDT by airborne
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To: Alberta's Child
In fact, I'm perfectly content to rescue families from rooftops for the next couple of days, then pull all government resources out of New Orleans, stop all efforts to restore the levees, and leave the rest of those quasi-humanoid mutants to cope with the chaos they've created. Years from now, we'll look back fondly on Hurricane Katrina and remember it as the largest toilet flush in the history of mankind.

Oh... LOL... holy mackerel. I haven't seen so much I agree with summed up in such a short space as this in a long time. ROTFL. Excellent!

75 posted on 09/01/2005 3:28:14 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Flavius
Nagin said there will be a "total evacuation of the city. We have to. The city will not be functional for two or three months."

Make that 8-12 months. I say forget New Orleans. Relocate the people. It's too vulnerable even if a billions are spent reinforcing the levees. Recreate the French Quarter in a mall in Louisiana that's above sea level.

76 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:08 AM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: Flavius
Looting spiraled so out of control that Mayor Ray Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts and focus on the brazen packs of thieves who have turned increasingly hostile.

And they tell citizens they should not possess firearms.

77 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:26 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: nyconse

A scary thought is we still have another 2 months of huricane season left.


78 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: gitmo

yeah they tell people a lot of stuff...

most of it is junk


79 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:44 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Rebelbase

well, maybe just maybe

someone may get a hint and not build 2 ft from the beach

or even better 12ft under sea level

im no genious . but im pretty decent on getting a hint


80 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:54 AM PDT by Flavius
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