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Mayor: hundreds, maybe thousands, dead in New Orleans
AP ^ | Aug 31 2005

Posted on 08/31/2005 11:33:28 AM PDT by george wythe

Hundreds, maybe thousands, of people have died in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina slammed into the city, Mayor C. Ray Nagin said Wednesday.

It will at least two or three months before the city has electricity. Restaurants won't be able to open; there won't be any commerce, he said during an impromptu news conference at the Hyatt Hotel.

"This is the real deal. It's not living conditions," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; godhelpthem; hurricanekatrina; katrina; neworleans
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To: HIDEK6

So. you would do nothing at present to protect the trapped and helpless victims from the looters?

It is simple, looters are not unlike other scavengers, they do not relish putting their arses in jeopardy. Confront evil with overwhelming firepower, kill the looters wherever and whenever.


141 posted on 08/31/2005 12:52:11 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Ping to something you have no doubt seen. In my heart, I know your friend has assessed the situation perfectly. Good Lord!

Lando

142 posted on 08/31/2005 12:52:23 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (The general public doesn't pay attention enough........to care enough.)
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To: Sybeck1

Sure, he's now the mayor of a lake.


143 posted on 08/31/2005 12:54:15 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Bergen County, NJ (northeast corner)
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To: garyhope
This "mayor" is too drunk, stoned or stupid to know his ass from his elbow about what's really the truth about the situation.

Or all of the above.

Nice to know I wasn't the only one to notice ....

144 posted on 08/31/2005 12:54:30 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: RetiredArmy
Downtown is like all big city downtown's, dirty, noisy, crime, sex junk, booze, drunks, drugs.

Sounds like the Oval Office in the 90's...

145 posted on 08/31/2005 12:56:06 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: malakhi
de gustibus...

Tell that to the drowned.

146 posted on 08/31/2005 12:56:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: robowombat

"I frankly have never been disgusted by the tenor of many posters here until this event."

Then you've never seen any of the threads where Stormfront refugees rant about Israel and the USS Liberty, or where jackboot thug FReepers think that people in jail for nonviolent drug offenses who get raped had it coming, or defend SWAT teams who invade the wrong home as the price of fighting the WoD etc etc etc...


147 posted on 08/31/2005 12:57:20 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: AFreeBird

"Well, there's a reason they use airboats down there. Jets can be useful in shallow water conditions, but they have a nasty tendency to suck up debries into the intake and clog the impeller. And if you've noticed the pics, there's a TON of debries floating around."

In Alaska we used jet boats in shallow rivers and creeks contending with rocks and gravel, also in flooded debris filled back waters, I never had a problem


148 posted on 08/31/2005 12:58:00 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: adam_az

""The only upside to this is that the debauchery which characterized this city, especially around Mardi Gras time, may mercifully have ended."

Agree....NYC cleaned up (mostly) it's 42nd St sleaze. NawLen's was a historic city but the sleaze/smut atmosphere was repugnant. Not exactly a wholesome family enviroment. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise but prayers for the residents affected.


149 posted on 08/31/2005 12:58:49 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: RetiredArmy

Oh, I don't know it they would try that, is it possible?


150 posted on 08/31/2005 12:59:45 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: wordsofearnest

Thank you. You've got FReepmail.


151 posted on 08/31/2005 1:02:36 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: RockinRight
I heard that too about the flood insurance. What I don't understand is why. I am a loan officer in Ohio and I can't get you a mortgage if you're in a flood zone, unless you have flood insurance.

Yes, banks can get into trouble for not having correct flood insurance documentation. While the amounts sound small, the management of these banks assessed civil money penalties for not having proper flood documentation for mortgages are now under more scrutiny from their regulator than otherwise would be the case (absent other reasons):

http://www.bankersonline.com/compliance/floodcmps.html

You don't want to drop down in your regulator's ratings; it means a lot more hassle for your bank.

152 posted on 08/31/2005 1:02:50 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: robowombat
156th Brigade is about to return...

It's the 256th... and I would request that you keep it to yourself. My brother is 256th. Loose lips sink ships and all...

153 posted on 08/31/2005 1:03:27 PM PDT by ericthecurdog (NOBODY puts BABY in the corner!!)
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To: wideawake
You get disoriented in the dark pretty quickly.

In my misspent youth, one of the pastimes of the reckless was to SCUBA in the houses that were inundated when Lake Lanier was filled. Kick up some silt with your swimfins, you had no idea where you were, let alone where the window was. We used lead lines.

Sometimes I wonder how we survived our teenage years.

It was not a good idea to get into the attic in the first place, unless it had a gable window. But I think folks were astounded at how quickly the water rose.

154 posted on 08/31/2005 1:04:15 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
In Alaska we used jet boats in shallow rivers and creeks contending with rocks and gravel, also in flooded debris filled back waters, I never had a problem

Yea, but that's different than the kinds of debries floating around NOLA. Clothing, paper, plastics, wood, you name it...

155 posted on 08/31/2005 1:05:46 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: george wythe

This is another report consistent with my Sunday afternoon predictions:

Predictions:
Fatalities in the 1000 range. [this report, let's hope it doesn't go much higher to prove me wrong]
Superdome structure intact, few if any fatalities inside from unrest/panic/stress. [single suicide only fatality reported] Stories from dome are mostly uplifting tales of survival, faith, prayer, and song. [Unknown]
Some areas of NO never rebuilt. (But the tourist areas will live again). [Loooking plausible]
Oil released from strategic reserves to reduce price spikes. [Yes]
The cost dwarfs that of Andrew. [Apparently]
683 posted on 08/28/2005 3:56:04 PM PDT by Beelzebubba (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472438/posts?page=683#683


156 posted on 08/31/2005 1:05:50 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: tflabo

"Agree....NYC cleaned up (mostly) it's 42nd St sleaze. NawLen's was a historic city but the sleaze/smut atmosphere was repugnant. Not exactly a wholesome family enviroment. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise but prayers for the residents affected."

Destroying the village to save it? Nice.

If every place turns into Disney land, we lose a lot.

No one forced you to go or live there.


157 posted on 08/31/2005 1:07:37 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: edcoil

I'm astonished at what is going on in New Orleans. It is a picture of the worst of humanity in a disaster. I'm sickened by the people affected and I'm praying. However, I've just heard on talk radio that rescuers are being verbally (and sometimes) physically abused by the very people they are risking their lives to rescue. The welfare mentality is showing on TV interviews- though I still feel terrible for all. I'll be interested to see if people are grateful for help- like they were in Florida. This is the time Reverend Jesse Jackson should make an appearance and speak to the people- but I doubt we'll see him.


158 posted on 08/31/2005 1:08:58 PM PDT by Faithfull
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To: ericthecurdog
Actually this has been paraded in the press for about a three weeks. During the week of Aug 15 when I was in Louisiana the Times Picuyune ran a fairly detailed story including quotes both from officers with the brigade and from the Adjutant Generals office about the timeline for the brigade rotation. There was also TV coverage including interviews with wives of some of the men about to return. I don't mention items which are not already in open source channels.
159 posted on 08/31/2005 1:10:05 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Terabitten

I chaperoned a 7th grade class trip to Jekyll Island GA. Only one of the black students would even wade in the surf edge. She loved it! It was the first time she had seen the ocean in person and she was awed by it. It was exciting to see her so captivated, almost like seeing the ocean for the first time yourself.
The other black students hung back at the dunes running from the little crabs and squealing. There was no getting them near the water.
I had chaperoned that same group on a trip the year before to Rock Eagle. It's out in the country in the farm area of GA. Most of the black kids had never seen a real live cow either. They would all run from side to side of the bus to look out the windows to see the cows grazing.


160 posted on 08/31/2005 1:10:16 PM PDT by kalee
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