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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The situation in New Orleans continues to deteriorate due to rising water levels and desperation. Search and rescue continues via boat and air. Authorities have announced the goal to evacuate all the remaining residents of NOLA. The New Orleans Mayor has reported numerous gas leaks throughout the city. Sporadic fires occurring. Attempts to evacuate hundreds of hospital patients from Charity Hospital and Tulane Medical Center are in process. Patients are being transported to other hospitals as far away as Florida.

The Army Corps of Engineers is at the NOLA levee breaks with current plans to drop 3000 lb sand bags in an effort to stop the flow of water. NOLA hospital evacuations continue for thousands of patients. Reports indicate all evacuees are being taken to the SuperDome, which is now surrounded by water. The generators at the Dome are now in jeopardy. The Governor of Louisiana has called for a day of prayer tomorrow...

Elsewhere, search and rescue continue in Mississippi and Alabama. Biloxi reports indicate catastrophic damage.

Links to various news and local government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today needing boats, volunteers, lists gas station openings, water, etc.

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government

Streaming Video:
WWL-TV (via KHOU/Houston): http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_khou&live=yes

WKRG/Mobile: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WDSU/New Orleans via WAPL/Jackson: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/842/12912/v0001/reflector:38841

All are Windows Media Player links.


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Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aftermath; hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina
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To: Warren_Piece

Suggest you read the Congressional report on the Titanic and the official interviews. Based on the circumstances, the entire crew behaved well right up to the very end. They did a tremendous job saving as many people as they did. Even if they had had enough life boats they would have not had enough time to fill them and launch them. Crew members were giving away their life jackets and warm coats to the passengers. The captain was under total control of the ship even up to the time it actually sunk.


2,101 posted on 08/30/2005 6:42:19 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: Types_with_Fist

I feel he would only be a distraction right now. He can lead the most effectively from Washington.

George Bush doesn't have to prove himself to me again.


2,102 posted on 08/30/2005 6:42:39 PM PDT by A.Hun (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
The airlines indeed deserve some blame, they pulled out way too soon.

They were told not to bring anybody else into New Orleans. Are they supposed to dead head into New Orleans?

I've been flipping channels, and between Mary Landrieu, Kathleen Blanco, and the female head of the Red Cross, none of these women seem to have a grip on what's going on.

2,103 posted on 08/30/2005 6:42:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (We who have been given much must help those who now have nothing.)
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To: MEG33

"I suggest you call the Corps of Engineers and lend your expertise.."

No need - I can send a letter and it will get there before they do.


2,104 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:02 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: RummyChick

Yeah....the guy's not going to get the food for free....I'm sure he can't afford to give it away....he's not a charity.


2,105 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:10 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: spanalot

"To: LenS

"Of course, the WTC was heavy damage in a limited area within our biggest metropolitan area -- equipment and trained people to operate was everywhere. "

There are photos of small craft under power within a few hundred feet of the breech. These 40hp boats are very capable of towing vessels up to 75 ft to the breech area - espcially as the current is going that
way.

The depth of the lake drops to a few feet after the breech and anything towed from the lake will snag there - do this 100 times and you have an effective structure that will become more water tight as weeds,
lumber, etc fills up nooks and crannies.
"

Ok...look.

A long time ago I owned a small marine construction company.

I do not believe I could dam a 20 foot wide creek, of a three foot depth and a walking pace flow rate, even with unlimited funds and preparation, without unwatering the site.

I know what you are feeling.

I'd like to airdrop an aircraft carrier in that hole and stop it cold, but it isn't going to happen.

It just isn't.

New Orleans is going to flood to the specified depth and no amount of hindsite will change it.

There are, however, several other critical variables still in flux.

I want that hole plugged too, but it isn't going to happen, not tonight, and by tomorrow it won't matter.

Current efforts are geared towards getting as many people out of New Orleans as we can, and maybe saving some of the survivors still stranded or trapped elsewhere.

There are a lot of these.

IMO, it is time to consider allocating your priorities to issues that we have the ability to change for the better.


2,106 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:13 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Txsleuth

Health guy saying problem with toxic mold, west nile especially for the people on the roof. The toxic mold may be what causes the condemation.

Says everything is very bleak.


2,107 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:16 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sassbox

Unlike 9/11, there aren't a hell of a lot of people in the affected areas that will be able to hear his words of comfort. I'd much rather see our President lead by action rather than words.


2,108 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:26 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: sinkspur
***Hey, Katie? I'll bet you didn't think to call Gerard Arpey, CEO of American, and say you'd pay to dead head planes into MSY to get people out, did you?***

Screw that....

There is ONE thing you will find in ANY airlines Staff-room, anywhere.....

The Weather Channel....

After 16 years in the biz, i'm telling you I WOULD know when it was time to leave, and if no one answers the company in-range call, the Captain isn't landing...

Smart move Governor... A few underpaid rampies should have sacrificed the lives of them and their families, so a few more tourists could leave,..

Is it just me???
2,109 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: cajungirl

I think your sister should dump the husband and let Louie and the goat come inside.


2,110 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:55 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: RummyChick
I am surprised they didn't mug the guy selling the hot dogs for 1.50.

A 2005 Dodger Dog is going for $4.00 at the 'ol ballgame.

2,111 posted on 08/30/2005 6:43:59 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: sinkspur

That nag Landrieu is on TV right now "saving lives" again. I don't know where we'd be without her... but I'd sure like to find out.


2,112 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:09 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

The people who truly need the president's support are in NOLA and on the coast helping....and they have no power to hear what he says....The rest of the country can wait.


2,113 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: NautiNurse; Petronski; Ironfocus

Listen to this guy on Larry King. Is that a South African accent? Sure sounds like it.


2,114 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:17 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Torie
I guess dismissing the Missisippi levee thing is a mistake.

That is why I was asking how high lake P could go before it found another way out. We still are in the dark.

2,115 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:24 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Jrabbit

The dome which is flooding and has about 9000 people in it right now.


2,116 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:28 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: spanalot

Outrage over levees failing? Why? That's just physics.

The levees overran because of water dumped uphill from them. Even water coming close to the top of a soil dam will start to force its way under and through. This is not the first nor the last time it will happen.


2,117 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:30 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: spanalot

> ""Damn straight - we are going to be the laughing stock of countries that have been doing this for hundreds of years in the North Sea.""

Where's that Dutch boy with the spare finger to stick in the dike, when you need him? Seriously though, North Sea storms, bad as they may be, don't compare, I think, to the power and water volume of a tropical hurricane.


2,118 posted on 08/30/2005 6:44:39 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: hole_n_one
You did a fine job in scraping all of the sugar off.

I wish I felt proud about that. But just like Shepard Smith was almost gleeful in his assessment of the post-hurricane damage from his limited view in the French Quarter early on, I don't think the news media is doing a good job at all about setting out the real consequences of what happened.

It may be more exciting to show video of a few rescues and some looting, but the real story is how do you evacuate a city of residents that refused to evacuate once before when it was far easier?

Anyone heard any estimates of when the water taps will be back on with safe water? Any estimates of when sewage will be working?

No. These people are wading in a toilet. Someone in the media ought to be asking how long they can do that.

2,119 posted on 08/30/2005 6:45:17 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MarMema

I heard they are STILL taking people to the SD.


2,120 posted on 08/30/2005 6:45:29 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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