It's about timing. The situation is in progress as we converse on these boards.
There is a time for discussing the ins and outs of what the government should do here.
NOW IS NOT THAT TIME.
Posted on 08/29/2005 12:39:10 PM PDT by Smogger
Mayor Ray Nagin said that 200 people were stranded on rooftops in the Lower Ninth Ward and several “bodies are floating in the water” in the Bywater neighborhood and in Eastover.
Nagin made the announcement in his first press briefing after Hurricane Katrina slammed just east of the city, but did plenty of devastation to New Orleans.
Nagin said that the 200 stranded people included 20 police officers who were riding out the storm at their homes in preparation to take over shifts from other officers. He said that boats would be dispatched on rescue missions later in the afternoon.
Mayor Nagin issued a "boil water" recommendation for water in the city - except for Algiers and the CBD due to a water main line break that may have compromised the water.
Nagin said at least 20 buildings in the city had collapsed and that it might be 48 hours before residents would be allowed back to their homes to assess the damage.
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It's about timing. The situation is in progress as we converse on these boards.
There is a time for discussing the ins and outs of what the government should do here.
NOW IS NOT THAT TIME.
Are you suggesting that grown adults are incapable of feeding and clothing themselves?
Or are you suggesting that infants are capable of feeding themselves with no help?
Willie, that sounds exactly like some of those who would attempt passing themselves off as "ultra-conservative." Nice catch!
I'm suggesting that you are a foolish poster.
I'm sure that your father and sibling are looking down on you right now, proud of the lessons you learned from the loss of them.
You dishonor their lives with your hard-hearted talk.
That's ludicrous. I suppose you refrain from discussing the Iraq was, since the "situation is in progress" as we converse now.
No, that you would compare this hurricane with the war in Iraq is what is "ludicrous."
Then again on the Iraq subject, since our troops are in theatre, the politics should end at the Atlantic coastline.
Like I said, we're at your loved one's grave with the minister saying the last words. I lean over and ask you, "Can you believe how the ump called that obvious strike a ball?"
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=national
Okay, veritas and Huck. I now see the light. Screw 'em all. DON'T GIVE THESE BASTARDS SO MUCH AS A DRINK OF WATER!
If you want to give them water, go ahead. I promise not to stop you.
However, I'd love to hear your rationale for proclaiming to have the authority to force me to do so.
The bottom line is simple.
Either we are a nation of laws, or we are not.
If we are, the Constitution is the Supreme law.
It says clearly the US government only possesses certain powers, and each is clearly enumerated therein.
I cannot find the part specifically talking about using tax dollars for charity (or as you may prefer, disaster relief)
Please consider Davy Crockett's "Not Yours To Give".
http://www.house.gov/paul/nytg.htm
Once we make exceptions to laws, the laws become meaningless. Posters here seem to desire some sort of democratic anarchy where the government does whatever most of the voters want them to do, whether or not those proposed government actions are in line with existing law.
I am very troubled by this, but not the least bit surprised by the inevitable willingness of people to gradually trade liberty for security until the will to live freely is but an after thought.
This sounds like they managed to splice the break back together underwater, no mean feat.
That "liberty for security" line is pure sloganeering.
With this situation, let's say you're in charge. You say constitutionally that we have nothing here our government can legally do. With this hurricane, what's your alternative?
There's a big cargo plane on it's way. I hope it's full of rations and SOLDIERS. What use is it to declare marshall law (martial law) whatever if you don't enforce it? They caught a few looters this morning but many got away.
A SEAL, yes a seal somehow ended up on the side of a city street. He's pretty big. People all day have been trying to save this poor creature. Where would a seal come from? (CNN-Anderson Cooper). I've been watching CNN because they've had the least commercials. MSNBC the and Fox are tied for commercial breaks.
Just to repeat what I've said to you once already:
"Now, if I knew that the tax dollars spent to "give aid" to Katrina victims were earmarked for legitimate national interests such as shipping logistics and the oil drilling infrastructure in the Gulf, I'd probably be okay. "
Did you not read that, or are you deliberately being dishonest about what you know to be my views?
Anyway, having read what you wrote about infrastructure, you still did not address the issue about the people themselves. What's your alternative for them?
Hey, look. My sister's in that, okay?
First, that's something you save up for the heart-to-heart with the hardcore hard-to-reach later on, when everyone is safe and dry and it's time to start talking about preparedness for the next hurricane.
Second, you DON'T tell people that when they're swimming in disease-ridden floodwaters with dead bodies and live cottonmouths.
Third, I don't appreciate your showing your butt crack on FR with the whole world watching.
That's enough for now.
Scripsi, scripsi.
"Lentulus Gracchus"
I realize that you are some sort of hotshot on FR, but it's time you address the pending question instead of pretending to be on some sort of moral high horse.
Did you not read that statement, or did you deliberately misrepresent what you knew to be my view?
In answer to your question, my alternative for the people is that I hope they have strong family, friends, neighbors, churches, and that the people of this country come together and give to charities that will help the people who need it.
I do not believe in tax dollars for generators, food, water, shelter, unemployment benefits, insurance deductible payments, gift certificates to Home Depot, or any other cash equivalent to individuals who have the terrible misfortune of being victims of a natural disaster.
Again, you seem to be of the ilk who believe that so long as a majority of Americans desire the President to take a certain course of action, he may and in fact should do so.
That is a democracy, and I want no part of it.
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