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Mayor: 200 trapped on Ninth Ward rooftops; bodies floating in Bywater
WWLTV.com ^ | 02:37 PM CDT on Monday, August 29, 2005 | WWLTV

Posted on 08/29/2005 12:39:10 PM PDT by Smogger

Mayor Ray Nagin said that 200 people were stranded on rooftops in the Lower Ninth Ward and several “bodies are floating in the water” in the Bywater neighborhood and in Eastover.

Nagin made the announcement in his first press briefing after Hurricane Katrina slammed just east of the city, but did plenty of devastation to New Orleans.

Nagin said that the 200 stranded people included 20 police officers who were riding out the storm at their homes in preparation to take over shifts from other officers. He said that boats would be dispatched on rescue missions later in the afternoon.

Mayor Nagin issued a "boil water" recommendation for water in the city - except for Algiers and the CBD due to a water main line break that may have compromised the water.

Nagin said at least 20 buildings in the city had collapsed and that it might be 48 hours before residents would be allowed back to their homes to assess the damage.

(Excerpt) Read more at wwltv.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; la; mayor; neworleans; raynagin
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To: Smogger

It's all Bush's fault. He didn't sign Kyoto. He's not doing enough against global warming,we have the National Guard in Iraq and Afghanistan, we're not doing enough for the poor people and they are the people dying in La.& Miss. This is just a sampling of what the anti-American democRATS are saying. I'm sure they'll blame Bush for the fire-ants, snakes and alligators. I wish he would fight back or at least have someone speak up for him.


441 posted on 08/30/2005 11:46:20 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum
Let me ask you this. If you were burying your spouse or child, would it upset you if I asked you about the Texas Rangers game while your loved one is being interred?


442 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:10 AM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: rdb3
Tying up the real help needed in a time of real crisis to the letter of the Constitution violates its spirit.

LOL! The Constitution is dead. Nice pap.

443 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:25 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: Huck

Suppose the Creator formed that which is natural to give us the opportunity to dispell our own heartlessness and prove we have the capacity for compassion?


444 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:56 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: cyborg

Who are you to demand anything from me?


445 posted on 08/30/2005 11:49:49 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: Huck

I take it the answer is no. At least you are consistent Huck. Have a nice day and watch your back, words have a way of coming around and biting you in the ass.


446 posted on 08/30/2005 11:51:18 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Huck
Nice pap.

Okay. Thank you for sharing your opinion.


447 posted on 08/30/2005 11:51:23 AM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: Huck

For crying out loud, use your brain instead of resorting to casting aspersions on my "conservative credentials".

At the time the Constitution was written, we had nowhere near the population we have now, nor the infastructure in place to be able to help much in the event of a natural disaster in some farflung (relatively speaking) corner of the Republic.

Now, we have -what- 300,000,000 people in this country, vastly improved health services and knowlege of epidemiology that we didn't have then. That's just for starters. We have the knowledge, the infastructure, and the WILL to do what we can to help our fellow citizens in a time of serious need.

Your literalistic reading of the Consititution in this instance leaves me cold. Stop using the Consititution to cover up your resentment at being forced to help those you would otherwise throw to the wolves.


448 posted on 08/30/2005 11:51:49 AM PDT by exnavychick (We're damned if we do, damned if we don't...so my vote goes for "do.")
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To: azhenfud
Suppose the Creator formed that which is natural to give us the opportunity to dispell our own heartlessness and prove we have the capacity for compassion?

Ok. I'm supposing. I see sick old people, helpless young people, poor wretches, all churned up in God's washing machine, reduced to mangled flesh and bone, for what? So those spared can prove to their Creator that they possess compassion? Killing babies and old folks and the poor so WE can prove to HIM our compassion. Sorry, I don't buy it.

449 posted on 08/30/2005 11:52:43 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: exnavychick
Your literalistic reading of the Consititution in this instance leaves me cold.

I see it leaves pretty much everyone cold at one time or another.

450 posted on 08/30/2005 11:53:32 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: Huck

I see.


451 posted on 08/30/2005 11:54:55 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: cyborg

You can't take it as a no. I mean, you can do anything you want, but then you can have that "conversation" all by yourself. If the facts don't cooperate, invent your own. You are your enemy. Funny watching the Constitution get poo-pooed as an annoying irrelevance on THE conservative forum. Everyone has their breaking point, I guess.


452 posted on 08/30/2005 11:55:08 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: Huck

You know, I distincly remember on 9-11 when hundreds of people were concerned about YOUR whereabouts and whether or not you were safe. It went on all day long.

Too bad you didn't learn anything about your fellow man on that day.


453 posted on 08/30/2005 11:56:04 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: azhenfud

What God would murder children just so the living could act out for Him? That's what the Devil would do. Not God.


454 posted on 08/30/2005 11:56:37 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: Huck

Yeah. That "everyone" pretty much includes people who have both a heart and a brain.

Folks that can both see the bigger picture and still care enough about their fellow human beings to realize that we don't have to have written permission from the Founders to do the right thing, or the smart thing.


455 posted on 08/30/2005 11:57:29 AM PDT by exnavychick (We're damned if we do, damned if we don't...so my vote goes for "do.")
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To: floriduh voter
They seem to be focusing on only a couple area due to the inaccessible roads. Looting has gone out of control..they're stealing from all the wal marts, but not just food, firearms as well. Woodmere WM has been looted and the people running out with weapons are firing on the police responding, according to local PD depts. This is going to get worse, and I intend to return Friday to assess the damage to my home. Marshall law is in effect now for Jefferson parish, where I use to live. 1st reports indicating we were spared, thank God. All of NO is still 80% under water now, and flooding at a rate of 1 foot per hour . USArmyCorps of Engineers is trying to locate the breaks, they're saying as many as 3 major breaches, 1/2 river 1/2 lake

This will get worse..there's still 10K people in the superdome in need of evacuation. The predators are coming out of the wood works to prey on all the homes/ cars in hotels, refuge centers and the police cannot be every where at once..I hope most are armed for defense. A pawn shop in NO has been looted and burned to the ground. Just heard the Walmart in Algiers has been cleaned out completely. That's about 2 miles from my home. I may not return now..will wait for more news.
456 posted on 08/30/2005 11:57:34 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Howlin

What's 9-11 got to do with anything? Oh brother. Do we all have to pull on our hairshirts in public to show everyone we care? I don't wish suffering on anyone. Then again, a hurricane in the Gulf coast is not that surprising. it's just weather. A hurricane in Maine would be surprising. People die every day. Suffering occurs every single day all over the world. Shall I stop what I am doing and prove how touchy feely I am, or can I deal with it in my own way? I'll wait for all you frigging self righteous saints to provide me with the proper approved guidelines.


457 posted on 08/30/2005 11:59:23 AM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: exnavychick
we don't have to have written permission from the Founders to do the right thing, or the smart thing.

That's fine. For all I know yours is the smart, correct position to take. I think it's noteworthy that on THE conservative forum, the Constitution is clearly a matter of convenience. The only debate would be under what circumstances to shelve it. If that's you believe, it appears the overwhelming majority of conservatives agree with you. So there it is. The Constitution is optional. If you believe that is the right way to go, as you say it is, then you shouldn't object to me pointing it out.

458 posted on 08/30/2005 12:03:23 PM PDT by Huck (" 'Neo-Con' is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years."--Keith Richards)
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To: Huck
Acts of war and acts of God are not the same. Speaking of God, He created hurricanes didn't He? Isn't it He who brings this death and destruction? If you want to point fingers at heartlessness, why don't you take it up with Him? He moves wind and rain, not I.

The God you believe in seems to be as cruel as you are. He creates human beings, then purposely sends hurricanes to kill them and bring them misery.

Then, with people like you around, they are left on their own, to fend for themselves.

Well, buddy, that's not the God of Christians, or Jews, or any other religion that I know of. And believers in God see everyone as children of God, and worthy of lifting up when they need it.

Defining the response of this great nation, full of believers, in terms of the Constitution only is unthinkable.

Your problem seems to be a bit of a withered heart, a minimalist attitude toward those in need. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of Americans are willing to open their wallets, and the treasure of the nation, to respond to those suffering from catastrophic events.

If we don't do this, what good is any of the rest of what we do?

459 posted on 08/30/2005 12:03:57 PM PDT by sinkspur (We who have been given much must help those who now have nothing.)
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To: rdb3
Tying up the real help needed in a time of real crisis to the letter of the Constitution violates its spirit.

God bless you, sweetheart. I don't even know you, but you said what needed to be said and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

460 posted on 08/30/2005 12:04:08 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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