Adam, Eve and T. Rex

LA Times ^ | 8/27/05 | Ashley Powers

[Crackingham]

Dinny the roadside dinosaur has found religion. The 45-foot-high concrete apatosaurus has towered over Interstate 10 near Palm Springs for nearly three decades as a kitschy prehistoric pit stop for tourists. Now he is the star of a renovated attraction that disputes the fact that dinosaurs died off millions of years before humans first walked the planet.

Dinny's new owners, pointing to the Book of Genesis, contend that most dinosaurs arrived on Earth the same day as Adam and Eve, some 6,000 years ago, and later marched two by two onto Noah's Ark. The gift shop at the attraction, called the Cabazon Dinosaurs, sells toy dinosaurs whose labels warn, "Don't swallow it! The fossil record does not support evolution."

The Cabazon Dinosaurs join at least half a dozen other roadside attractions nationwide that use the giant reptiles' popularity in seeking to win converts to creationism. And more are on the way.

"We're putting evolutionists on notice: We're taking the dinosaurs back," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a Christian group building a $25-million creationist museum in Petersburg, Ky., that's already overrun with model sauropods and velociraptors.

"They're used to teach people that there's no God, and they're used to brainwash people," he said. "Evolutionists get very upset when we use dinosaurs. That's their star."

The nation's top paleontologists find the creation theory preposterous and say children are being misled by dinosaur exhibits that take the Jurassic out of "Jurassic Park."

"Dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden, and Noah's Ark? Give me a break," said Kevin Padian, curator at the University of California Museum of Paleontology in Berkeley and president of National Center for Science Education, an Oakland group that supports teaching evolution. "For them, 'The Flintstones' is a documentary."

[Manic_Episode]

Job 41:8 (New International Version)

8 If you lay a hand on him, you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

"If" implies that at the time of the conversation in question it was clearly possible, but ill advised.

[IrishCatholic]

So what? If a private museum/roadside attraction wants to say dinosaurs were put here yesterday by Vulcans what is that to you? Do you pay the mortgage? Or are you afraid of someone questioning your fundamentalist core beliefs?
Give you a break? Sure, I won't point out the limitations of your reasoning, just the lack of manners I previously listed when evos post. I am not against evolution nor for creationism. I just don't like bullies.
You would have only evolution mandated by law. As for Kansas mandating the possibility of intelligent design, are facts such fragile things they can't stand up to scrutiny? Are people so unable to think that when presented two diametrically opposed sets of information they cannot find which is the more credible? The shrill defense of evolution smacks of medieval witch burning more than the reason presentation of information.

[Just mythoughts]

Well I don't do New International Version, I like to be able to look the words up for myself to see what they mean.

Job 38 begins this instruction, l, Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2"Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

3 Gird up now thy loins like a man: for I will demand of thee, and answer thou ME.

4 Where was thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou has understanding.

Now alll through this instruction what response does Job give?

Does not say Yes I remember the dino, fought with them myself?
NO, Job does NOT acknowledge remembrance of the creatures or the battle. God ask him if he remembered, that does tend to put a time frame around it, doesn't appear they were laying hands on a dino while having this chat.

[Manic_Episode]

Nor does Job say "What the heck are you talking about?"

[Dimensio]

It is actively propogated by those who want to live as they wish, with no thought of the Creator who will ultimately call them to account for every idle word, every deed done in secret.

It just wouldn't be right to have a discussion on this topic without some creationist dishonestly equivocating acceptance of the theory of evolution with atheism.

[Andonius_99]

same thing happened to unicorns, you know...LOL.

[Ichneumon]

Darwinists runing scared Bump!

You're kidding, right?

[Ichneumon]

Good point. We've never seen macro- continental drift, either. We can measure micro- continental drift, but what's the proof that that's the same thing?

Way too subtle...

[VadeRetro]

Do millenia of time really exist? I've never lived through so much as one millenium. Have you? Macro-time is A Theory in Crisis!

[wolfcreek]

Hey, wait a minute, wasn't there humans and dinos in that movie "10 million years BC"(sarc)

[Ichneumon]

Hippos don't have tails like a cedar,

Are you sure? Without knowing in what aspect the author was comparing, there's no way to determine if a hippo tail does or does not match the description. For all we know, he was referring to how they taste, or texture, or whatever.

For that matter, "a cedar" is not entirely clear, it may not be referring to a cedar tree. There may have been some object commonly made of cedarwood at the time which was known as "a cedar", but which is now obscure.

But the rest of the description -- the parts which *are* clear -- very much sound like an awed description of a hippo.

and whales don't have scales.

True, which is why (along with other parts of the descripton) leviathan was more likely a reference to the dragon myth, which already existed prior to the time of the authors of the Bible, and in regions not far from their own. They likely had heard the dragon myth, believed it, and added a reference to it to the Bible to describe one of God's more amazing creations.

[Coyoteman]

Dear Abby:

I got a radiocarbon date back just last week at 6300 years. Does this mean I have to give it back or can I just ignore it?

Running Scared

[Ichneumon]

So what? If a private museum/roadside attraction wants to say dinosaurs were put here yesterday by Vulcans what is that to you?

And if Michael Moore wants to spread false propaganda in his movies and books, what is that to you, eh?

Hint: Some of us actually care about the truth, and care about people's heads being filled with misinformation which cripples their thought processes.

[Ichneumon]

Also, Intelligent Design is not necessarily creationism.

Yes it is.

Connecting the two is not accurate.

Yes it is.

To persist in the connection is to lose all credibility.

No it isn't.

[VadeRetro]

Dear Abby:

I got a radiocarbon date back just last week at 6300 years. Does this mean I have to give it back or can I just ignore it?

Definitely, you need to start dating them a little younger, sweetie! Go for it!

Abby

[Coyoteman]

Definitely, you need to start dating them a little younger, sweetie! Go for it!

Abby

You know how it is, archaeologists will date any old thing.

[js1138]

 

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[js1138]

 

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[muir_redwoods]

Once this idiots are through re-intrepreting Genesis as a biology text, maybe they can explain the part in Leviticus wherein bats are called fowls.

Lev 11:13 IIRC

[js1138]