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MILITARY 'SPIED' ON RICE (More Able Danger leaks from Specter staffers)
NY Post ^ | 8/27/05 | NILES LATHEM

Posted on 08/27/2005 6:13:35 AM PDT by jimbo123

Cyber-sleuths working for a Pentagon intelligence unit that reportedly identified some of the 9/11 hijackers before the attack were fired by military officials, after they mistakenly pinpointed Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other prominent Americans as potential security risks, The Post has learned.

The private contractors working for the counter-terrorism unit Able Danger lost their jobs in May 2000. The firings following a series of analyses that Pentagon lawyers feared were dangerously close to violating laws banning the military from spying on Americans, sources said.

The Pentagon canceled its contract with the private firm shortly after the analysts — who were working on identifying al Qaeda operatives — produced a particularly controversial chart on proliferation of sensitive technology to China, the sources said.

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Sources said the private contractors, using sophisticated computer software that sifts through massive amounts of raw data to establish patterns, came up with a chart of Chinese strategic and business connections in the U.S.

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The China chart was put together by James Smith, who confirmed yesterday that his contract with the military was canceled and he was fired from his company because the military brass became concerned about the focus on U.S. citizens.

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"It was shut down in a matter of hours. The colonel said our service was no longer needed and told me: 'You just ended my career.' "

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(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; abledanger; atta; china; counterterrorism; gorelick; hillary; rice; specter
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Sometime last year, not sure when, the NY Post or Daily News had a small story on someone who was caught with a gun and he told them he was Rice's security. Im looking for the story but the man was also in possesion of her phone number and I dont think it was a number for public use.


161 posted on 08/27/2005 12:49:36 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: jimbo123; Mo1; nightowl; STARWISE; Peach; ovrtaxt; Congressman Billybob; All
Sorry folks, we have to back off from the idea that it was Susan Rice that Able Danger pinpointed.

There is no doubt that it was Condoleezza Rice, if not the program was not working. This story was out there (although this particular article was written about a year later):

The Chinese Army Spy and Condoleezza Rice

I have no idea how serious this is/was. As a professor at Stanford Ms Rice would not have issued security clearances or had any influence on military procurements or sales. However, in a data mining exercise regarding Chinese strategic and business connections in the U.S. she would definitely have turned up. (Looks like yet another score for Able Danger!)

That the program was terminated because Ms Rice's name turned up is something I think belongs among the fairy tales.

162 posted on 08/27/2005 2:17:53 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
I'm absolutely of the same mind. Someone is spinning that take on it .. leaving out Bernard Schwartz of Loral, William Perry, and all Bubba's pimps and opportunists.

There would've been NO reason for Bubba (or Reno/Gorelick/Lindsey/Shriller/Ickes/Berger et al) to end the program because Condi Rice's name appeared ..in fact, if there was ANYTHING suspicious about her, they couldn't have leaked it fast enough to hurt W.

But, there would've been PLENTY of reason to end it .. if someone was actually doing their job to protect US and the Able Danger project discovered the admin. scuzzballs in the shady and seditious relationships and arrangements we KNOW existed.

163 posted on 08/27/2005 2:37:20 PM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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To: varmintxer

Thanks, varmint, my suspicions are confirmed.

If you know something we don't know, HH, confirm that there is a real reason why you won't talk about AD, don't just blow it, and us, off. (Guess I should send that comment to HH, right?)


164 posted on 08/27/2005 2:40:15 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: jimbo123

More likely it was shut down because so many of Bill and Hillaries Chinese friends showed up on the list. Clinton is responsible (IMHO) for allowing our sensitive technology to be sold to China by Loral and other defense contractors.


165 posted on 08/27/2005 2:57:10 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: steveegg

When I look at the senatorial lineup on the dems side of Specters Judiciary Committee I cringe. When I see the repubicans on that committee I want to puke. Do you think the senate Judiciary Committee will accomplish anything. They are part of the problem.


166 posted on 08/27/2005 3:23:12 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: krunkygirl

I've tried to get further comment from him but it's going to take more than me to get him to move on it. It sounds like his screeners are also blowing off any callers that bring up AD.


167 posted on 08/27/2005 3:28:42 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (I can hear it now, Hi, I'm Hillary and I'm here to help.)
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To: jimbo123
...in a related story, people in Chappaqua N.Y. reported a series of U.F.O.s spotted. After further investigation it was discovered that the flying objects were ashtrays and lamps.

:-)

JEDI.
168 posted on 08/27/2005 4:54:51 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: dts32041
From what I understand...the charts can be recreated using the same software. While it would be best to have original data...showing how it worked in the first place could be quite damaging to those on the chart. And their allies.

This must be pursued to the last.

LET'S ROLL.

JEDI.
169 posted on 08/27/2005 4:57:59 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: RedsHunter
And board members of Loral Space Technology right?
That should be an interesting list.

JEDI.
170 posted on 08/27/2005 5:00:03 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: jimbo123

"Because of what Able Danger found out about Chinagate, the Clintonites killed all their work (including their findings on Atta). They hid the Al Qaeda findings to protect Clinton's China treason. Now 3,000 people are dead because of it.".......Bingo!!! We have a winner!!!!


I want names, dates, facts...I want a trial and if conviction, appropriate punishment.


171 posted on 08/27/2005 5:03:38 PM PDT by mo
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To: nightowl

Hey...you might be on to something there.


172 posted on 08/27/2005 5:18:51 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Yasotay

RINO infestation. Something we are going to have to deal with in upcoming elections.

JEDI.


173 posted on 08/27/2005 5:28:27 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Dat Mon
I did a post on my Blog, a FlyontheWall, on how this coverup began. For what it's worth. It's a good read, possibly true.

Fly on the Wall and the Beginning of the 911 Commission Coverup

174 posted on 08/27/2005 5:41:21 PM PDT by Fishtalk (Pop Culture and Political Pundit-http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: melt
Anyway, I wonder which private firm did the analysis?

Wonder if they are still available for hire ? Perhaps we the people can fund our own Able Danger project. From what I understand they searched only publicly available data ? We may have to come up with a different name though.

175 posted on 08/27/2005 6:35:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: OldFriend
We always knew it was about Clinton transferring technical capabilities on missile design to China.

The US would no longer exist if the Japanese had nuclear missile technology prior to the onset of WWII.

176 posted on 08/27/2005 6:40:09 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Publius
Linda Chavez' attempted debunking of Able Danger in the Washington Times today is intended to protect certain Republicans, who like Clinton, were on the take from the Chinese.

So we are being governed by the Chinese ? I guess its better then having to pray to Mecca everyday. Looks like WWIII already ended. China owns our feds. Walmart sells their goods. Perhaps WWIV will be between the Chinese and the Islamists.

177 posted on 08/27/2005 7:06:09 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Wuli
"This is a smokescreen designed to distract from the real "finds" with Able/Danger"

Exactly -- I suspect Gorelick's clones in the General Counsel's office of the DOD freaked out at the realization of what real info about Clinton administration culpability in Chinese technology 'transfers' from the USA would mean.... they're giving the examples of Rice and William Perry (Clinton's former Sec. of Defense) at Stanford to make the program seem as ridiculous as possible..... human common sense must be applied before even beginning to choose which names to look at from such a list..... but lawyers have no common sense, ergo, they assume no one else does either. Actually, come to think of it, Perry WAS the Sec. of Defense right in the period (1994-97) when some of the worst problems of Chinese espionage and US technology 'transfers' arose..... so it may be quite appropriate that he was flagged by this program! http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/perry.htm
178 posted on 08/27/2005 7:24:35 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Fishtalk
Ill be sure to check it out.

I was thinking the other day...I hope this story is going to show what the power of Internet forums and blogs can do...even beyond the Rathergate episode.

Rathergate was child's play compared to the clever spin and misdirection efforts that will be expended to quash or diminish this story.

I think it is easier to navigate around BS when you try to think logically, observe details, and keep an open mind.
179 posted on 08/27/2005 7:48:30 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: jimbo123

A lot of Freepers are pointing out that Clinton's Dr. SUSAN Rice also worked at Stanford!! They netted William Perry's name also, Cinton's Sec. of Defense.


180 posted on 08/27/2005 9:01:56 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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