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Danforth concerned Republicans too closely tied to religious right
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/12476477.htm ^

Posted on 08/26/2005 5:27:21 PM PDT by lunarbicep

ST. LOUIS - Retired Republican Sen. John Danforth expressed concern Thursday that his party is too closely aligned with the religious right.

Danforth, 68, who represented Missouri for three terms in the Senate and resigned earlier this year as U.N. ambassador, spoke during a lunch sponsored by the St. Louis chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans, a national gay Republican group.

Also an ordained Episcopal minister, Danforth told the group that he believes marriage is only between a man and a woman.

"On the question of civil unions, I believe that we should attempt to work out some kind of method of honoring, respecting and realizing the rights of committed people without calling it marriage," he said.

Danforth said concerns of conservative Christians, like the high divorce rate and family disintegration, deserve attention, but added, "There is something about a political party adopting a particular religious agenda, a sectarian religious agenda, as its own, that is divisive.

"The purpose of American government, the purpose of our Constitution, is to hold together all kinds of diverse interests in one country," Danforth said.

Danforth's comments echoed those he has made in recent op-ed pieces. He said he has heard back from people, including many Democrats, who share similar concerns.

Danforth said he remains a committed Republican and believes the Democrats are "floundering right now.

"The only thing that holds them together is that they hate George Bush. That's the only thing they're for," he said.

Danforth said the issue of same-sex relationships should not be locked into the Constitution because it is "a matter of community values and social values and needs to be worked out in society."

Images of dozens of same-sex couples racing down courthouse steps in front of television cameras looked wrong, because "it didn't look like anything is being honored," he said.

After Danforth's remarks, several Republicans said they agreed with his point of view.

"The Republican party needs this particular voice heard," said Log Cabin member Bill Jenkins, 45, of Kirkwood.

Gail Elble, 55, of St. Louis, a Democrat who has been in a committed relationship for more than two decades, spoke about how she would like her partner to be able to receive her benefits if Elble should die. She found his speech bigoted against any marriage that didn't fit his own mold of what it should be.

"I don't believe he offered any solutions," said Elble, president of the Gateway Stonewall Democrats, the local branch of a gay Democratic organization.

Danforth left the Senate in 1994. He acted as special counsel leading the 1999 investigation into the 1993 siege at the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Texas.

President Bush also appointed Danforth as special envoy to Sudan to mediate peace in the civil war. He was named ambassador to the U.N. in 2004.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: christianvote; gop; homosexualagenda; johndanforth; logcabinrepublicans
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1 posted on 08/26/2005 5:27:58 PM PDT by lunarbicep
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To: lunarbicep
John Danforth wants to be loved by the media and liberals. So he spends his time attacking social conservatives to win their affection. Good riddance - we need a RINO like him like we need enemies.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 08/26/2005 5:31:19 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lunarbicep
Danforth said ..., "There is something about a political party adopting a particular religious agenda, a sectarian religious agenda, as its own, that is divisive

Excuse me? I was not aware that any political party ran its agenda past any particulat religous group. I, as a Christian, have a right and even an obligation to do what I can to sway my government to making proper laws. Yes, proper by my definition. I hope that my definition of what is proper is also Biblical. Just because the RATS are finding that Christians aren't becoming integrated in their party is no reason that Christians can't be active in any other party.

I'm glad Danforth is retired. With statements like this, I suspect he's a RINO.

3 posted on 08/26/2005 5:33:08 PM PDT by Jemian (It's better to be historically accurate than politically correct.)
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To: lunarbicep
Retired Republican Sen. John Danforth . . .

Is this the same John Danforth who whitewashed Waco? Fortunately, Missouri has two senators of whom they can be proud now.

4 posted on 08/26/2005 5:33:16 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: lunarbicep
Well, the ties to the Religious Right are the only thing keeping the Republican Party of 2005 from massive political dominance. They are also the only thing keeping the Republican Party of 2005 from morphing into the Democratic Party of 1964 - now that the Republicans have thrown all vestiges of small government libertarianism over the side.

So, Mr. Danforth, what difference does it make?

5 posted on 08/26/2005 5:33:47 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Feelings are not a tool of cognition, therefore they are not a criterion of morality." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: lunarbicep
Mr. Danforth, the GOP isn't too closely tied to the religious right. We ARE the religious right.

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6 posted on 08/26/2005 5:34:11 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Texas: Please provide another cowboy for '08. Same qualities as the last one.)
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To: lunarbicep

My list of media whores gets longer by the hour.


7 posted on 08/26/2005 5:36:13 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: goldstategop

This does not sound like the Senator Danforth many of us Missourians knew and respected for years - and helped get Thomas confirmed to the SCOTUS.


8 posted on 08/26/2005 5:36:25 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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According to the Gospel Of Danforth, its OK for the Left to promote secular and humanist values in the public square. But its a hideous transgression of constitutional limits and pluralistic ideals for Christians to promote biblical principles in said public square. I'm sick and tired of the hypocrisy from blabbermouths like Danforth.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
9 posted on 08/26/2005 5:36:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Vigilanteman
Is this the same John Danforth who whitewashed Waco?

Yes, that's him. My thoughts exactly, and immediately. He disgraced himself by being a submissive lapdog for Clinton-Reno at a time when we really needed him.

10 posted on 08/26/2005 5:38:04 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: Jemian

They act like they don't need us or want us. We should sit out a couple of elections of voting for their lesser of two evils.


11 posted on 08/26/2005 5:39:22 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: BoBToMatoE
He "evolved" - when you live in Washington too long, to be invited to the right parties and schmooze with the famous, you have to compromise your principles. I'm astonished any one remains a conservative for long in that liberal town. Let's put it this way: the Beltway is NOT representative of the country's thinking. To put it in more pithy terms, Danforth succumbed to the disease known as Beltwaytitis.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
12 posted on 08/26/2005 5:39:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Vigilanteman
the same John Danforth who whitewashed Waco

The senate (and many ex-senators) are as corrupt as the day is long.

13 posted on 08/26/2005 5:41:03 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Luke21

He's retired and doesn't count anymore. We need to make our presence felt even more and totally shut people like him up!


14 posted on 08/26/2005 5:41:58 PM PDT by Jemian (It's better to be historically accurate than politically correct.)
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To: lunarbicep

That's OK....The left is too closely associated with the "Church of Hillary".

15 posted on 08/26/2005 5:42:34 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: lunarbicep

Dear Dan,


Bite me.


Yours Truly,


Religious Right


16 posted on 08/26/2005 5:43:12 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Losertarians are dead to me.)
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To: Luke21

Or form another independent party and marginalize yourselves even further.


17 posted on 08/26/2005 5:43:58 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: lunarbicep

Karl Rove figured out that a motive base of conservative Christians is one of the keys to Republican majority. The GOP can continue following that advice and keep winning elections or listen to a RINO like Danforth, whose ideas helped the Republicans to a minority status in Congress.


18 posted on 08/26/2005 5:44:18 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: lunarbicep

Danforth is an ordained Episcopal priest. Naturally, he wouldn't understand committed Christians whose faith actually impacts their lives and votes.


19 posted on 08/26/2005 5:46:08 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Vigilanteman

Yes, he is the WACO Danforth. He wants to "honor" these marriages or unions........."honor"???????????"Honor????????What to the hell is he thinking about. He is supposed to be a minister of the gospel in addition to being a liberal republican......Honor.....that is the word the chose.


20 posted on 08/26/2005 5:46:48 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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