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GOP hopefuls for '08 breaking from Bush
The Washington Times ^ | 26 August 2005 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 08/25/2005 9:53:40 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Republican senators with White House ambitions have begun to break with President Bush on a variety of issues to prove their independence from the second-term president.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee staked out his own ground on the issue of stem-cell research. Sen. George Allen of Virginia publicly disagreed with Mr. Bush's refusal to meet a second time with anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan.

Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska compared the war in Iraq to the Vietnam War, an analogy that is anathema to Mr. Bush. Sen. John McCain of Arizona has long disagreed with the president's tax cuts and confidence in Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

"As the incumbent president gets into his second term, a lot of people who lust after his job are trying to differentiate themselves -- not so much from him as from each other," said David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 08; 2008; allen2008; georgewbush; gop; hagel; hagel2008; mccain; mccain2008; presidency; rinos; sammon
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To: Jaysun
Please don't get me started on McCain. Besides being a lousy carrier aircraft jock, his reprehensible handling of his divorce and blatant link-up to dirty Arizona teamster money through his new father-in-law is just for openers!!!

I knew his father well; and the Admiral would be turning in his grave if he could see his craven offspring in action.
41 posted on 08/25/2005 10:54:59 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: dk/coro
Please don't get me started on McCain. Besides being a lousy carrier aircraft jock, his reprehensible handling of his divorce and blatant link-up to dirty Arizona teamster money through his new father-in-law is just for openers!!!

I knew his father well; and the Admiral would be turning in his grave if he could see his craven offspring in action


I don't mean to get anyone started on McCain. It's a subject that consumes days of happiness from me every time it comes up. I loathe him. If I knew for sure that he'd go to hell if I agreed to go myself, I'd follow him rejoicing.
42 posted on 08/25/2005 11:01:13 PM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Haven't we got a petty bunch of candidates for '08. At this rate Hilliary will eat their lunch.
43 posted on 08/25/2005 11:03:33 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Reagan Man
>>>> ... lax immigration laws and excessive federal spending.

My two biggest beefs with PresBush.

Add to that pussy-footing around with Iraqi insurgents and their supportive neighbors.

44 posted on 08/25/2005 11:04:14 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: hsalaw

Check out #23. Apparently, on a Sunday show, he DID amend his position after news of Bush already having met Sheehan broke.


45 posted on 08/25/2005 11:04:36 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: trubluolyguy

You described the mood of the entire country. Enough of the BS and lies.......


46 posted on 08/25/2005 11:08:14 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Terpfen

Good. But he really never should have said it in the first place, because it's not the job of the president to meet with every wacko fringe player. He does enough of that when he meets with the occasional senator.


47 posted on 08/25/2005 11:13:16 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: balch3
Wish you were right, but the left has the anti-war thing going on.

Able Danger is on the way: when it laminates coverage, points will swing back our way, probably 10 net points.

48 posted on 08/25/2005 11:16:41 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: smoothsailing

If Shrillary the Senator runs against Allen the Senator, Allen wins by at least 8 points.


49 posted on 08/25/2005 11:18:48 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Kryptonite
Well,I would certainly hope so!
50 posted on 08/25/2005 11:35:18 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: Kryptonite

Nobody mentioned Mitt Romney... I'm really not sure of his ideas, but he hasn't said or done anything against Bush. I've heard Guiliani's name bounce around too. (even though he's not conservative)


51 posted on 08/25/2005 11:35:24 PM PDT by MadManDan
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To: Aussie Dasher
Republican senators with White House ambitions have begun to break with President Bush on a variety of issues to prove their independence from the second-term president.

Which is stupid since what it comes across as is disloyalty to the Republican Party base. Sorry Senators but you have to get NOMINATED first. "Proving your Independence" may make the Dinosaur media love you, for the people who NOMINATE the next Republican Candidate they view your "independence" as both disloyalty and political weakness. See the Republican Base expects their Senators to FIGHT the Hysteric Left, not get alone with it. Somebody ought to tell Hegal that he is politically dead. Any Republican who spews the same talking points as the BanSheehan and Moveon.org has ZERO chance of winning the Republican nomination.

52 posted on 08/26/2005 1:57:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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To: Reagan Man
>>>> ... lax immigration laws and excessive federal spending.

Of course notice that none of the RINOS, nor the Dims, are purposing any legislation to actually deal with either issue. They scream at Bush a lot, but they actually do not DO anything. To me their inaction speaks far LOUDER then their words.

53 posted on 08/26/2005 2:00:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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To: Soul Seeker
they'd be willing to risk leading the way on an issue the President

If anyone want to be the front runner, they would purpose reinstating the 1995 PAY AS YOU GO Budget rules and support a tough anti-illegal immigration bill. The fact that none of the current Republican "Candidates" have done so shows they haven't got the Political Savvy to win in 2008. They will spew a lot of tough talk to try and fool the Republican Base, they will not actually DO anything.

54 posted on 08/26/2005 2:04:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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To: MJY1288
I worry about a repeat of 1992 when Ross Perot divided the right and allowed Klinton to win the Presidency with 43% of the Vote.

My concern as well. Though I think the split, if it were to happen, would be over the immigration issue, and the way the GOP has rolled over on the issue of illegals, rather than Iraq.

55 posted on 08/26/2005 2:10:23 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: Reagan Man

>"...lax immigration laws and excessive federal spending."<

-We have immigration laws? :0


56 posted on 08/26/2005 2:14:17 AM PDT by FBD (make April 15th just another day! Enact the FAIRTAX! www.fairtax.org)
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To: Aussie Dasher; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
So, basically...our choice is between a pack of RINO's...and a pig?


57 posted on 08/26/2005 2:55:09 AM PDT by FBD (make April 15th just another day! Enact the FAIRTAX! www.fairtax.org)
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To: Soul Seeker

The Republicans in general haven't stood behind this President nearly as strongly as I think they should have.

Which is why my RNC support has dropped to and will remain at Zero.


58 posted on 08/26/2005 5:06:36 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (We are grateful to our fine military. God bless them and their families.)
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To: Cobra64
But he is doing the right thing in defending the USA.

3000 unidentified people per day crossing our undefended, wide open borders qualifies as defense?

59 posted on 08/26/2005 6:04:48 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Soul Seeker

"The first conservative, and doesn't even have to be "right" on all issues, Reagan wasn't..G.W.B. hasn't been...but the first resonably conservative man or woman that draws a marker in the sand, fires his or her polling agency and takes a stand on what they believe in the face of a MSM tidal wave for doing so will become the frontrunner. Simple as that."

Tancredo may be that man. He polled ahead of Allen last month... with 1%. It's still early, but it bodes well for Tancredo since the frontrunners in the polls are Giuliani and McCain, neither of whom have a chance of winning primaries outside of blue states.


60 posted on 08/26/2005 6:41:25 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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