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The Fonda Fallacies: why Jane Fonda was wrong, and why it matters today
Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation ^ | August 23, 2005 | Prof. Robert Turner

Posted on 08/24/2005 9:07:04 AM PDT by Interesting Times

Jane Fonda is a beautiful and talented actress. But for many Vietnam veterans, she is remembered more as a despicable traitor whose betrayal undermined the sacrifices of millions of American soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen – and in the process contributed significantly to a Communist victory in Indochina that led to the slaughter of millions of innocent human beings and the consignment of tens of millions of others to a Communist gulag that continues to rank among the “worst of the worst”[1] among the world’s human rights abusers.

My Life So Far is Fonda’s attempt to justify the first six decades of her existence. She tells us far more than most would care to know about her difficult childhood, her battles with eating disorders to maintain her trim figure, and her various problems with a series of failed marriages. There are few acknowledged regrets,[2] considerably more efforts to rationalize and spin behavior by leaving out essential facts, and an underlying theme that almost seems calculated to be setting the stage for an insanity defense. (There is, after all, no statute of limitations barring a treason prosecution even after passage of a third of a century.)

One of her regrets is the publication of “the photograph.” The infamous photograph—which is hardly the worst of her transgressions while visiting Hanoi—showed a gleeful Fonda sitting in a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun and apparently pretending to shoot down American pilots. But in her autobiography, Fonda dismisses it as a consequence of being “used” and deceived by her otherwise wonderful Communist hosts. She had told them, she asserts, that she did not wish to visit any military installations; and the only reason she happened to be wearing a North Vietnamese military helmet at the time was that it was “required” by her hosts.[3]

After decades of taking serious grief even from some of her fellow war critics, Fonda decides to give her readers her “best, honest recollection of what took place.” It seems a North Vietnamese soldier sang her a wonderful song that made her so happy she was giddily applauding his effort when, she writes: “Someone (I don’t remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. I hardly even think about where I am sitting.”[4]

It is only later, she explains that the implications of what she has done hit her. “Oh my God. It’s going to look like I was trying to shoot down U.S. planes! I plead with him [the translator], “You have to be sure those photographs are not published. I am assured it will be taken care of.”[5]

She now acknowledges that “[i]t is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned” and that she was “used.”[6] Interestingly, the still doesn’t seem to understand that other portions of her trip might have been “planned” by Hanoi to “use” her. But in this instance it is very difficult to accept Fonda’s explanation anyway, as her other behavior in Hanoi is far more consistent with the idea that she knowingly and willingly sat in the gun chair and pretended to shoot down the hated American “war criminals” who she tells us were intentionally targeting schools, hospitals, and dikes in an effort to murder hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. And she would have had to have been high on drugs to allow some unknown individual to force her into the seat of an anti-aircraft gun and then gleefully pretend to shoot down American planes as a pack of international photographers snapped her smiling face (all the while apparently oblivious to what was happening)—that explanation really fails to pass the “straight-face” test. Furthermore, Fonda’s hatred for U.S. pilots and POWs was obvious at the time, and she even admits that her 1973 denunciation of returning American POWs as “liars” for saying they were tortured (which she now admits did occur) was provoked in no small part by her anger over the warm reception they received from the American people.[7]

Fonda characterizes her permitting herself to be photographed pretending to shoot down American pilots as a “two-minute lapse of sanity.”[8] And the volume is peppered with little comments suggesting that poor little Jane Fonda really couldn’t control her own actions, and that she was pretty much programmed through her life to do whatever was necessary to please the current man in her life. Roger Vadim told people she really wasn’t very bright, and she acknowledges that she has “always been numerically challenged” and her poor little mind simply “goes blank” when it comes to understanding details like “bomb tonnage.”[9] (I recall hearing her on I believe it was the Tonight Show in the early 1970s talking about B-52 bombers being launched from aircraft carriers in the Tonkin Gulf. Even the modern Nimitz-class carriers only have a total length of about 1,100 feet, or less than one-tenth of the runway length used by the enormous B-52 Stratofortresses.)

Consider her response to being asked whether she enjoyed “being with women” while married to Vadim. (He would often bring prostitutes home to share their bed, and Fonda admits that she was sometimes the procurer.) “I don’t know [if I enjoyed it]. I thought I did at the time because I’m so good at becoming whatever my man wants me to be. I can convince myself of practically anything in the name of pleasing.”[10] Ergo, she really should not be held responsible for her treasonous behavior, as she became enamored with what she calls “small-c communism”[11] while married to Vadim and then married an American leftist radical from the “Red Family Collective” in Berkeley.[12]

In fairness to the “insanity” defense, Fonda appears to have learned little at Vassar about critical scientific inquiry. When strangers told her that America supported the French colonial cause in 1946 and that American pilots were intentionally targeting “hospitals” and “schools” and using “invisible” bombs to target the dikes of North Vietnam, she carefully recorded these new “truths” so they could be regurgitated to eager college audiences and legislators back in America without the slightest apparent skepticism.

To her credit, Fonda is willing to acknowledge that she should have “listened more” and “talked less” during her years as a Vietnam protester: “Watching some taped interviews years later,” she writes, “I wanted to shout, ‘Will someone please tell her to shut up?’” (And some think Vietnam veterans never agree with Jane Fonda.)

There are few textual references to serious source materials (she asserts that husband Tom Hayden sometimes quoted the Pentagon Papers,[13] but most of the “facts” she attributes to that source are in reality readily refuted by a careful reading of the documents therein[14]), and given the unsupportable factual errors that permeate the volume that oversight is understandable. It may be useful to address a few of the specific myths that remain widely accepted by Americans who do not follow these issues closely, but first a “big picture” view of the origins of the war may be useful.

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To: JulieRNR21
Good article......did you hear what the American Legion said today?

"For many of us, the visions of Jane Fonda glibly spouting anti-American messages with the North Vietnamese and protestors denouncing our own forces four decades ago is forever etched in our memories," he stated. "We must never let that happen again."

No, I hadn't. Good for them, and thanks...

41 posted on 08/24/2005 4:38:10 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

BFLR = Bump for later reading. Let's citizen-arrest her for treason.


42 posted on 08/24/2005 5:29:53 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Interesting Times
here's another fool who is too silly to know when she is being manipulated, but loves the limelight...

stolen from "forGod'ssake"

43 posted on 08/24/2005 7:30:01 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: bitt
here's another fool who is too silly to know when she is being manipulated, but loves the limelight...

Fonda and Sheehan are manipulators, not manipulatees.

44 posted on 08/24/2005 7:35:20 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: JLO

thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 08/24/2005 8:33:28 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Interesting Times

bttt


46 posted on 08/24/2005 8:34:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Interesting Times
Visit your local Jane Fonda Memorial.

(Sorry I'm late..)

47 posted on 09/07/2005 8:11:06 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (Deja Moo - The feeling you've heard this bull before...)
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To: Interesting Times
To her credit, Fonda is willing to acknowledge that she should have “listened more” and “talked less” during her years as a Vietnam protester: “Watching some taped interviews years later,” she writes, “I wanted to shout, ‘Will someone please tell her to shut up?’”
If so, Jane seems to be pleading stupidity as a defense. Apparantly, she has a point. She hasn't learned to keep her mouth shut yet.
48 posted on 03/15/2007 6:46:48 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left is America's Ephialtes.)
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To: Stultis
Barefoot in the Park was ridiculous. However, Jane was very good in Cat Ballou, Coming Home, Julia, and Nine to Five.
49 posted on 03/15/2007 6:49:31 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left is America's Ephialtes.)
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To: R. Scott
If they can't get this **** on treason. How about accessory to genocide ?
52 posted on 03/15/2007 7:04:51 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Interesting Times
Millions of people were tortured and murdered due to her and her cohorts actions.

There is a God in Heaven who will judge her and Kerry et al righteously.

53 posted on 03/15/2007 7:19:50 AM PDT by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: Charlespg

That would be nice.


54 posted on 03/15/2007 8:35:51 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Interesting Times

Bookmark bump


55 posted on 03/15/2007 9:00:54 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Stashiu

Bless you for what you went thru and to hell with those who disparaged your sacrifices for God and Country and to hell with Jane Fonda.


56 posted on 03/15/2007 7:53:36 PM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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