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Minister tells Muslims: accept Aussie values or 'clear off'
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | 24 August 2005

Posted on 08/23/2005 10:39:49 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Federal Education Minister Dr Brendan Nelson says he will be meeting the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils (AFIC) to develop ways to teach so-called Australian values to Muslim school children.

But Dr Nelson says those who do not accept and teach Australian values should "clear off".

One of the recommendations at Prime Minister John Howard's terrorism summit yesterday was for Islamic schools to be encouraged to denounce extremism and teach about Australian traditions and culture.

The Minister says it is important for all groups to be integrated into the Australian community, whatever their religion.

"If you want to be an Australian, if you want to raise your children in Australia, we fully expect those children to be taught and to accept Australian values and beliefs," he said.

"We want them to understand our history and our culture, the extent to which we believe in mateship and giving another person a fair go, and basically if people don't want to support and accept and adopt and teach Australian values then, they should clear off."

But a prominent Muslim educator says Australian values and traditions are already being taught in Islamic schools.

The deputy president of the Australian Council of Islamic Education in Schools, Silma Ihran, says the Minister should meet with school leaders to get a clear understanding of what is actually being taught.

"We have a document in all of our schools and we've all been receiving, through associations such as Independent Schools Association, professional development on how to actively incorporate the state of Australian values that are in this document, called Australian Values for Schools, as part of our teaching process," he said.

Meanwhile, Muslim educators are calling on Mr Howard to include their representatives in future summits with the Islamic community.

Ms Ihran, who is also the principal of the Nooral Houda Islamic College in Strathfield in Sydney, says Mr Howard must consider the wider Muslim community and its youth before making decisions about the teachings of Islamic schools.

"The Federation of Islamic Councils is an excellent body, but it doesn't represent the majority of the community and it itself isn't aware of some of these programs which are really the ones that the Government should be working with, to make sure that their concerns over the issues of values and citizenship are really addressed properly," she said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aussievalues; australia; deportation; muslims
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To: JABBERBONK

"Clear off" is a (very) polite phrase in reasonably common parlance in the non-US Anglosphere. It's more polite than "get lost", "get stuffed Mohammed" or "get bent, you wussie Muslim fags".

To hear an MP using even this anodyne phrase (to muslims) is music to my ears!


21 posted on 08/24/2005 3:45:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Aussie Dasher

Notice how these liars immediately protest that they ARE teaching western values. This cannot be possible if they teach the Koran. There is no redeeming social value to having these schools indoctrinating their youth for the takeover of western civilization so that the whole earth is ruled by Islam.


22 posted on 08/24/2005 3:51:09 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: ApplegateRanch
However, how soon do Dr. Nelson & Mr. Howard get hit with "incitement" charges for this "hateful" and "divisive" speech?

They shouldn't need to worry - they would have a very good claim of Parliamentary Privilege, but also the laws that might be used to go after them are state laws, and they haven't made these statements in a state that has those laws.

23 posted on 08/24/2005 4:31:41 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Excellent!!


24 posted on 08/24/2005 4:33:25 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Aussie Dasher
Thank it is time our government start to tell the muslim to get with the program or leave our country.
25 posted on 08/24/2005 4:35:15 AM PDT by solo gringo (Liberal democrats And Flori-duh judges are parasites)
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To: kittymyrib

Just my opinion... I read many posts and repeatedly hear phrases such as "if only we had the ____ to do that" Fill in with your favorite explictive.
Thing is, we have every ability in the world to change it all. We are no better than liberals who wait for a handout. We go to the polls, elect the best of the worst and wait for them to do something about it.
We have some fantastic FReepers who have the necessary equipment to affect change and protest. The rest of us (I include myself) are too busy or otherwise.
People from other countries have asked me why. Why would you pay too much for gas when you can change that in less than a week? The great America can change anything, but doesn't.
Everyone in manufacturing or sales take one week off in protest, by Thursday the price of gas would be 1.50 a gallon. Easy as that. I work in the aquisition of manufacured goods... Any takers?


26 posted on 08/24/2005 4:35:58 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Aussie Dasher
May be America should outsource our government to the Aussie's.It is time to cut all the government funds to a cult that teaches hate in America.If the Aussie's have the B@lls we should do it also.
27 posted on 08/24/2005 4:50:37 AM PDT by solo gringo (Liberal democrats And Flori-duh judges are parasites)
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To: JABBERBONK
"Does the Aussie term "clear off" equate to "fu*k off" ?"

actually the most commonly used is "pissorf"

28 posted on 08/24/2005 4:51:17 AM PDT by mitch5501 (by the grace of God,I am what I am)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Very straight and to the point. We should all take a lesson from this ... and apply it.


29 posted on 08/24/2005 4:53:28 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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To: doug from upland

We need anybody who would at least ask the Muslims for the record if they would want Sharia law for America, but our spineless multi-cultist brainwashed wimps never seem to ask the tought questions of our imported problem.


30 posted on 08/24/2005 4:54:32 AM PDT by junta (Invade Mexico, aggressively neutralize its corrupt leadership and introduce civilization.)
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To: backhoe; All
Thanks -- I was looking for that thread the other day.

I have a few of my own that I don't think are on that thread:


31 posted on 08/24/2005 4:58:13 AM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Shazbot29

Thanks for the links- copied & saved.


32 posted on 08/24/2005 4:59:49 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Aussie Dasher
accept Aussie values or 'clear off'

Good on you Mate!

33 posted on 08/24/2005 8:54:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
accept Aussie values or 'clear off'

Good on you Mate!

34 posted on 08/24/2005 8:55:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

BFLR = Bump for later reading.


35 posted on 08/24/2005 5:40:18 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

A lot of countries are finally seeing what radical Islam is really about. It's about time.


36 posted on 08/24/2005 6:34:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Clear Off!

That has a ring I dig!


37 posted on 08/24/2005 6:38:42 PM PDT by mikeIII
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