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Report: Fetuses Don't Feel Pain
FOXNews ^ | 8/23/05 | AP

Posted on 08/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PDT by workerbee

A review of medical evidence has found that fetuses likely don't feel pain until the final months of pregnancy, a powerful challenge to abortion opponents who hope that discussions about fetal pain will make women think twice about ending pregnancies.

Critics angrily disputed the findings and claimed the report is biased.

"They have literally stuck their hands into a hornet's nest," said Dr. Kanwaljeet Anand, a fetal pain (search) researcher at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, who believes fetuses as young as 20 weeks old feel pain. "This is going to inflame a lot of scientists who are very, very concerned and are far more knowledgeable in this area than the authors appear to be. This is not the last word -- definitely not."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofdeath; fetalpain; fetus; fetuses; lies; pain; silentscream
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To: brivette

Who cares? Are we allowed to kill people so long as we do it painlessly?

We are expected to believe that a woman who would kill their unborn child because it is inconvenient, would change her mind if she thought the child would experience pain before death?

"Yea, I was going to kill my baby, but when I found out it might hurt him I changed my mind"

This report is a classic example of setting up a straw-man argument to help justify an unjustifiable position.

I don't know whether they are right or not. In order to feel pain you have to reach a certain level of brain development as well as nerve development, and it is clear that at some point the fetus does not yet have that development, while at birth it does. So there must be some time during gestation that a baby becomes aware of pain, just as there is a point in time where the heart starts beating.


61 posted on 08/23/2005 3:27:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: workerbee
...the data indicate that fetuses likely are incapable of feeling pain until around the seventh month of pregnancy, when they are about 28 weeks old.
62 posted on 08/23/2005 3:32:44 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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To: editor-surveyor

did they ask one???


63 posted on 08/23/2005 3:34:22 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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Silent Scream
64 posted on 08/23/2005 3:34:44 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: workerbee
...the data indicate that fetuses likely are incapable of feeling pain until around the seventh month of pregnancy, when they are about 28 weeks old.

If the "researchers" stick to that story then a the fetus in a partial birth abortion, where the fetus is past the 28 week window, can feel the pain of the scissors into the back of its brain.

65 posted on 08/23/2005 3:36:11 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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To: Noachian

What a coincidence. I did a study too. Discovered that liberals don't feel pain.

Smack 'em upside the head with reality a million times, and they don't feel a thing...it's just like you never did it...


66 posted on 08/23/2005 3:37:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Lemmings: The Ultimate Team Players!)
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To: OpusatFR; Mrs. Don-o
I can't imagine what hell these people are laying up for themselves by denying the humanity of these babies.

That is one of the best crafted sentences I have seen here, for a while.

I am married to a woman who prays for "these people." I cannot. Thank God, she also prays for me.

67 posted on 08/23/2005 3:42:31 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: workerbee

This would be good news, if true. For the babies who are aborted, I mean.


68 posted on 08/23/2005 3:43:32 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Cicero
From the article: Proposed federal legislation would require doctors to provide fetal pain information to women seeking abortions when fetuses are at least 20 weeks old, and to offer women fetal anesthesia (search) at that stage of the pregnancy.

Amazing how this study arrives at the same time.

Pro-aborts also abhor required ultrasound for the same reason: it lets a woman see what she's really disposing of (and it ain't just a clump o' cells).

69 posted on 08/23/2005 3:44:24 PM PDT by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small)
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To: workerbee

This is absurd.


70 posted on 08/23/2005 3:45:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: eureka!
The spiel was something like "even though a fetus will react and try to pull away, the scientists said it did not have the capacity for pain until 30 weeks."

Time for another sequel to "Silent Scream".

71 posted on 08/23/2005 3:46:45 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

First: Decide what conclusions you (the liberal researcher) wants.

Then, arrange to "review" the studies that give you the results you want.


BINGO!



72 posted on 08/23/2005 3:47:25 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: msnimje
The measure pending in Congress would affect about 18,000 U.S. abortions a year performed in the fifth month of pregnancy or later,

This is enough to make me vomit. The 5th month or later.... the only way you abort a baby at that gestation is to deliver it. And I can assure anyone who wonders, yes, "it" is human and quite fully formed at that age.

73 posted on 08/23/2005 3:48:25 PM PDT by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small)
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To: workerbee

So, killing someone like Christopher Reeves would be okay? After all, he was paralyzed and couldn't feel pain.


74 posted on 08/23/2005 3:49:46 PM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: workerbee

Bullshite,


75 posted on 08/23/2005 3:50:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (thinking.....)
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Sometimes I wonder how conservative Fox News really is when it comes to the issue of child murder. They publish this without doing more research on the topic. And remember when they wouldn't let Matt Drudge cover the story of Samuel Armas?


76 posted on 08/23/2005 3:59:51 PM PDT by Tim Long
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To: sirchtruth

These baby killers are trying to justify sucking out the brains of a baby in a late term abortion. Oh, well it doesn't even feel its brains being sucked out of its skull.


77 posted on 08/23/2005 4:12:16 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Zechariah_8_13
But it never was about pain. It's about CONVENIENCE.

Agreed. But if we can stop third trimester abortions based on the pain issue, then why not?

78 posted on 08/23/2005 4:15:42 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Zechariah_8_13
But it never was about pain. It's about CONVENIENCE.

Agreed. But if we can stop third trimester abortions based on the pain AGRUMENT, then why not?

79 posted on 08/23/2005 4:16:01 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"Silent Scream"

I just finished watching all five. Thanks for posting that.

80 posted on 08/23/2005 4:22:44 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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