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Where will ageing illegal US immigrants from Mexico retire?
SeniorScopie ^

Posted on 08/22/2005 4:17:49 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

In recent decades, millions of working-age Mexicans have entered the United States. Most of them have done so illegally, taking jobs on the bottom rungs of the American labor market.

While much of the attention remains on the persistent inflow of illegal workers, a new question is beginning to worry some analysts and policy makers on both sides of the border : What will happen when the 10 million Mexicans living in the United States become too old to work?

Will they retire in the United States or will they return to Mexico?

As they age, the choices these old-timers make could fray the social fabric on both sides of the border.

Mexico is not prepared to receive them back. With a fast-aging population living in Mexico and virtually no system of social security or health insurance, Mexico could hardly cope with millions of returning immigrants who spent their working lives in the United States.

But the United States is also unprepared to deal with millions of poor, aging immigrants, eking out a living without recourse to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid or most other forms of federal assistance. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2003, an estimated 710,000 Mexicans older than 60 lived in the United States, 63 percent more than a decade earlier. About a quarter lived below the poverty line.

The International Herald Tribune (Aging immigrants could strain 2 countries ; 04/08/2005) writes that those numbers are expected to swell for the current generation of illegal immigrants. Unlike earlier migrants – many of them now legal residents in the United States – illegal immigrants of today are likely to see Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as little more than mirages. While most have paid taxes over their working lives to these programs, under current law they are not entitled to benefits.

According to data from the Mexican Migration Project from Princeton University and Mexico's Universidad de Guadalajara, family ties are perhaps the most powerful forces. But they can pull either way : the probability of return is much higher for the 58 percent of immigrants older than 50 who left spouses in Mexico than for the 24 percent who have spouses in the United States.

In the past ten years, crossing the border has become much more difficult as immigration restrictions have been tightened.

Unwilling to face the border patrol and the desert crossing more often than is absolutely necessary, illegal immigrants are returning home less often than they used to. Instead, they are taking their wives and children to the United States, becoming more settled in their new land


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; elderly; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; socialsecurity
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What will happen when the 10 million Mexicans living in the United States become too old to work?

1 posted on 08/22/2005 4:17:50 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
Our compassionate conservative government is gonna fix this problem - dontcha think?

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Mexico is not prepared to receive them back.

With a fast-aging population living in Mexico and virtually no system of social security or health insurance, Mexico could hardly cope with millions of returning immigrants who spent their working lives in the United States.


2 posted on 08/22/2005 4:19:30 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Got the answer to that one.
They claim a Worker's Compensation injury, and use it for retirement


3 posted on 08/22/2005 4:20:00 PM PDT by radar101
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To: Happy2BMe
Leave it to the politicians, Republican or Democrat, they will figure how to get these criminals on Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare or what ever it is and make US pay for it. Come up with some lame excuse they worked for us.
4 posted on 08/22/2005 4:21:22 PM PDT by StuLongIsland
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To: Happy2BMe
In the past ten years, crossing the border has become much more difficult as immigration restrictions have been tightened.

Come again?! Yes, illegal immigration has plummeted in the last decade.
5 posted on 08/22/2005 4:21:22 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: Happy2BMe

They will retire here with Social Security and other retirement benefits. They will find some way to sue an employer for whom they worked illegally to get hundreds of thousands of additional dollars.


6 posted on 08/22/2005 4:21:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Happy2BMe
no system of social security or health insurance

I believe the article is wrong on both counts

7 posted on 08/22/2005 4:21:48 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: Happy2BMe

heh, just doing the crimes Americans refuse to do...as I've noted here before every single illegal alien working in the US is doing so with either a phony or stolen identification...THAT my friends is the REAL Social Security crisis..


8 posted on 08/22/2005 4:22:20 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Happy2BMe

I know that Greeks and Dominicans in the New York area typically return to their home countries when they retire.


9 posted on 08/22/2005 4:22:52 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: radar101
They claim a Worker's Compensation injury, and use it for retirement

Fortunately, in California, that's becoming much tougher...unless you're CHP or L.A. County Fire Department. That's "retirement du jour" in those sectors of public employment.

10 posted on 08/22/2005 4:23:16 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Happy2BMe

I visit wine country regularly and friends up there say by far most want to make their money and go home.


11 posted on 08/22/2005 4:23:36 PM PDT by SF Republican
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Simple solution...deport them NOW.


12 posted on 08/22/2005 4:25:03 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: SF Republican

reah right. I live in San Jose. They are here to stay.


13 posted on 08/22/2005 4:26:27 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: kittymyrib

But that's to hard to do and it musses up our hair!!!


14 posted on 08/22/2005 4:27:29 PM PDT by Modok
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To: Clemenza

Yes, in Boston or Rhode Island quite typically the Poruguese return to the Azores; most Portuguese in the US and Canada are from the Azores. If they go to Terceira, they are well set as long as they do not develop serious health problems.


15 posted on 08/22/2005 4:27:45 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: Happy2BMe

I'm sure US taxpayers will pay for it, we always do.


16 posted on 08/22/2005 4:34:00 PM PDT by RightWinger
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I live in San Jose

I didn't think people actually "lived" in San Jose, I thought that they just "existed."

17 posted on 08/22/2005 4:36:08 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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53% of Mexicans would like to come to the US

21% say they would come to the US illegally

10% of Mexicans are already living in the USA

CALIFORNIA    DREAMING

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18 posted on 08/22/2005 4:45:36 PM PDT by devolve (------- http://tinypic.com/a47v9u.gif --American Immigration ---- Good-Bad-or-Ugly?-- -)
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To: Clemenza

Its now more like "co-existence"


19 posted on 08/22/2005 4:48:39 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: doug from upland

"They will find a way to sue an employer"

Or maybe a rancher who failed to provide water and other "necessities" when they trespassed on his land to get here.


20 posted on 08/22/2005 4:53:35 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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