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1 posted on 08/21/2005 10:56:33 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"Trusting the government with money is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." --- PJ O'Rourke

Good post Doctor, keep them coming.

2 posted on 08/21/2005 10:57:40 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


3 posted on 08/21/2005 11:01:02 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: neverdem

and that's just from the lawsuit. just think of where all that money goes from the outrageous taxes on cigarettes.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 11:01:21 PM PDT by Nipplemancer (Abolish the DEA !)
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To: neverdem
In the last five years, the states have received $40.7 billion in tobacco settlement revenue but have devoted only 5 percent of this money to fighting the tobacco epidemic.

WTF? I thought all this money was supposed to pay for smoker's health care costs.

Even that spent to fight the "tobacco epidemic" (stupid wording) only buys dumb commercials, "tobacco free zone signs" (enough to make you check to see if the green leaf is on your lapel), and dorky billboards.

Giving money to a politician is like giving crack to a crackhead...

5 posted on 08/21/2005 11:02:34 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: neverdem
"This lawsuit was never intended to balance ailing state budgets, let alone buy golf carts, cable lines and security cameras."

Oh yes it was. It certainly was.

6 posted on 08/21/2005 11:03:31 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: neverdem

I remember threads here detailing the largess that Hugh Rodham collecting his part as an attorney of record

It was a wealth transfer plain and simple


7 posted on 08/21/2005 11:05:30 PM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: neverdem
Illinois has used $315 million for property tax relief and an earned-income tax rebate.

Yet my real estate taxes go up and up and I am not eligible for an "earned income tax gimme".

This is like all the lottery money that's supposed to go to education. What a joke.

8 posted on 08/21/2005 11:05:42 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: neverdem
Wisconsin used the tobacco money to try and balance the state budget.

The AG who "negotiated" the settlement? Jim Doyle.

9 posted on 08/21/2005 11:09:06 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Some of the $ WA state has collected in gas tax revenue (which was earmarked for transportation) is going to smoking cessation programs.


10 posted on 08/21/2005 11:10:29 PM PDT by Just Lori (Ok, tag! Now you're it!)
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"This lawsuit was never intended to balance ailing state budgets.."

Let's be honest here. This lawsuit was intended to line the pockets of lawyers and the pockets of the elected elite.

Now they're after Merck for murdering innocent people with Vioxx. I say shut down industry until we can get these lawyers under control!


11 posted on 08/21/2005 11:11:15 PM PDT by Humidston (No Racial Profiles = Proof liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: neverdem
Just confirms what most conservatives knew from the beginning-the tobacco settlement was just a legalized extortionist money grab from the get-go.
18 posted on 08/22/2005 3:32:01 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberal: A blatant liar who likes to spend other people's money.)
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To: neverdem
The "tobacco settlement" was an "end run" tax increase on smokers...except it was put in place by the judiciary (unconstitutional) with trail lawyers taking up to 1/3 of the 400 billion dollars. The whole deal should be null and void. If a state wants to tax tobacco, they can do that through the legislative branch.
21 posted on 08/22/2005 5:01:45 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Anyone know whether the tobacco companies can sue the states for misuse of the settlement payments? Or taxpayers since the lawsuit was on their behalf?
22 posted on 08/22/2005 5:16:23 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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To: neverdem

To eveyone..........told you so!


29 posted on 08/22/2005 7:20:44 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: neverdem; SheLion
This lawsuit was never intended to balance ailing state budgets, let alone buy golf carts, cable lines and security cameras.

Sure it was...

32 posted on 08/22/2005 7:39:20 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: neverdem
In North Carolina, 75 percent of the tobacco settlement money went to provide assistance to the tobacco-producing community.

Bwhahahahaha! The morons...this is the kind of thing exposes them for the corrupt, greedy [bleep] that they are.

C'mon, boys, keep diggin'! I can't believe this article was in the Slimes!

33 posted on 08/22/2005 8:07:28 AM PDT by exnavychick (We're damned if we do, damned if we don't...so my vote goes for "do.")
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To: neverdem
"IN the late 1990's, the tobacco companies made a historic legal settlement with every state and the District of Columbia, agreeing to pay $246 billion over 25 years for tobacco prevention and cessation programs. In the last five years, the states have received $40.7 billion in tobacco settlement revenue but have devoted only 5 percent of this money to fighting the tobacco epidemic."

WOW!!!! The states should have to return all the money to the Tobacco companies, except for the five percent which was used as promised.

37 posted on 08/22/2005 10:48:01 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Member since December 1998)
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