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Dr. Jack Wheeler "Why We Haven't found Osama"
To The Point News ^ | August 12, 2005 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 08/21/2005 8:30:37 AM PDT by shield

One of the most frequently asked questions we get at To The Point is: Where’s Osama? Why haven’t we found and killed him?

We’ve gotten another flurry because of the recent claims that “mercs” or mercenaries, “professional soldiers for paramilitary corporations that attend the annual Soldier of Fortune convention in Las Vegas” know where he is – a hidden valley called Dir in northwest Pakistan.

I’ve known Col. Bob Brown, the publisher of Soldier of Fortune magazine for almost 30 years. We almost got ourselves blown up together in Afghanistan with the Mujahaddin back in the 1980s. I told Bob about this claim and he laughed his head off.

“The last Soldier of Fortune convention we had was back in 2000,” he told me. “You should know, Wheeler, you were our keynote speaker! No one in the world is in touch with “mercs” more than me. They would have one simple word for these Elvis sightings of Osama: (expletive). The guy making this claim, Paul Williams, is an (expletive).” Bob doesn’t mince words.

The claim that OBL has been in Dir “since he escaped from Tora Bora in December 2001” is laughable. Williams has, of course, never been remotely close to the place. I’ve been all over the area, from Peshawar through Dir to Chitral in the Hindu Kush, and know it would be easy to get him if he’s there. He’s not in Dir.

Osama is in Iran.

I verified this once again at a lunch with some Pentagon friends yesterday (8/11). There is a reason why OBL’s whereabouts can’t be publicly acknowledged. It would necessitate military action against Iran. If the Mullahs have got him and won’t admit it and won’t give him up, the pressure for a military strike to kill or capture him would be irresistible.

The White House refuses to follow this course. It will not attack Iran. The country is a tinderbox, ready to blow with an anti-Mullah revolution. The Iranian people are amazingly pro-American right now. If the Mullahs hate America, that means they love America. A military attack could change that and fast. At least that’s the rationale.

This is also why GW won’t order an attack on Iran’s nuke facilities.

Not that the CIA is helping to organize or precipitate such a revolution, has the capacity to do so, and is doing anything beyond crossing its fingers and hoping. Nonetheless, you wanted to know what the deal is with Osama – and there it is. He’s safe and sound in eastern Iran, perhaps in the vicinity of the town of Mashad, but they move him around. And we’re not doing anything about it.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: benladen; binladen; iran; jihad; terrorism; terrorist; terrorists; waronterror
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To: Marine_Uncle
Of course who knows if the CIA where told to make it appear he is alive

Bingo. An alive Elvis denies the rags and their RAT allies their martyr.

61 posted on 08/21/2005 10:01:41 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Line the border with trebuchets. Provide the invaders free flights home.)
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To: shield
I have long suspected that he's in Iran. there is no way he could have lasted this long in Afghanistan or Pakistan. He is being protected by a government that is powerful enough to do so and neither Paki or Afghani fits the bill.
62 posted on 08/21/2005 10:02:40 AM PDT by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: shield

So what happens when Iran blackmails the US and/or Israel or nukes us, one of our ships, Israel? Do we still wait for the Iranians to rise up and overthrow the mullahs?


63 posted on 08/21/2005 10:04:27 AM PDT by hershey
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To: shield
I agree...it's smart to pay close attention to Dr. Wheeler...he's got the connections...and usually a straight shooter. Some say he's a disinformation type of guy...I totally disagree with that.

I'm happy to see his name again. The last time was several years before the breakup of the Soviet Union. In an interview I read, he predicted that event with uncanny accuracy, at a time when no one else was talking of it.

64 posted on 08/21/2005 10:08:54 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Spike Spiegel

I am glad to hear that. But we will need many bunker busting bombs, too, as conventional bombs won't destroy the deep underground nuke facilities.


65 posted on 08/21/2005 10:09:06 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: SupplySider

It's great he's got a web site and publishes very interesting info. ;o)


66 posted on 08/21/2005 10:13:17 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Types_with_Fist
> I still think Osama is burnt to a crisp at Tora Bora

Even though he released a new and verified video right before the election last year?

Just in case you think this is proof, remember that the same can be said of Al Gore. And we all know that he isn't alive.

67 posted on 08/21/2005 10:13:48 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: JustDoItAlways

He's driving a taxi in Montreal. He parks his cab at night in the old Expo's stadium parking lot.


68 posted on 08/21/2005 10:17:36 AM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: cdrw

I think i remember that members of his family fled Afghanistan to Iran a couple years ago. makes sense to join them..


69 posted on 08/21/2005 10:23:08 AM PDT by lrb111
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To: AmishDude

LOL! Good point...:-)


70 posted on 08/21/2005 10:32:32 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: RayChuang88
This Sunni Shi'ite distinction is a fictitious condition propagated by the American Press. Islam is the culture and the different sects are the ideology. All of them are Muslim. The militant Muslims fight between themselves because they are Barbarians and none of them are true believers in the tenants of the Muslim religion. They all consider OBL a holy and religious prophet regardless of their Sunni, Kurdish or Shi'ite. Educated Muslims and true believers of Islam reject violence as a means to an end. The terrorist set aside ideology to kill innocents of all beliefs for their oppressive agenda. OBL IS in Iran and his day will come and so will the corrupt Mullahs who espouse violence there and elsewhere.
71 posted on 08/21/2005 10:34:58 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy

No, No, No...

In the real world, he's been kidnapped by space aliens to live in their alien zoo. Currently, they only have one human exhibit, Elvis. The aliens are hoping that with the addition of Osama, that their will soon be a new crop of infant humans to 'wow' all the alien visitors to the zoo.

:-)


72 posted on 08/21/2005 10:45:17 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: shield

Tin Foil hat time.


73 posted on 08/21/2005 10:47:17 AM PDT by devane617
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To: ASA Vet

" Bingo. An alive Elvis denies the rags and their RAT allies their martyr."

But I am one for believing he really is alive based on videos he had produced before and after the last presidential election. Good points where made elsewhere in this thread as the difficulties one would have trying to re-create his latest videos. At any rate, just read todays Michael Yon remarks at:
http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/

It sort of has a parallel contrast to the UBL issue in some respects. I do hope Michael does not overstep and end up no longer being welcomed by our guys in Mosul.


74 posted on 08/21/2005 10:59:05 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: mtbopfuyn
"Naw, he's in Mexico"

Hehehe- I hear that the ice-pick used to kill Trotsky might be up for sale.

75 posted on 08/21/2005 11:16:37 AM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: gogogodzilla

Maybe. I think he's running a kabob restaurant in Arlington, VA.


76 posted on 08/21/2005 11:21:40 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (Sniper: "One shot, one kill". Machinegunner: "One shot, one kill...again, & again & again".)
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To: gogogodzilla

I'm also thinking that he could be a cab driver in New York, DC, etc.

He'd fit in well doing that. No one would think to look for him.


77 posted on 08/21/2005 11:34:53 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: null and void

I think he is probably dead. I also don't think we have located all of Al Quaeda's sleeper cells in the US. I heard early on in the WOT that Osama's death could be a signal to unleash hell on the infidels so I don't think we would announce his death until we are sure where all the sleeper cells are.


78 posted on 08/21/2005 11:37:03 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Puppet
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Poor logic like that will get you killed.

For instance, the enemy of the Bengal Tiger is the King Cobra. The enemy of Man is the King Cobra.

Now, applying the tired old logic that you reposted above, you'd be getting all friendly with that Bengal Tiger, who WILL EAT YOU!

79 posted on 08/21/2005 2:24:09 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: nonliberal

I suspect they would get the word out were that the case.


80 posted on 08/21/2005 2:29:46 PM PDT by null and void (Be vewwy vewwy qwiet, we're hunting wahabbits...)
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