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Rocky's call to protest Bush makes vets see red
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 8/20/2005 | Glen Warchol

Posted on 08/20/2005 7:36:26 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson called for "the biggest demonstration this state has ever seen" to protest President Bush's appearance Monday before a national veterans convention.

"This administration has been disastrous to the country," Anderson said Friday. "If people could organize and speak out in an effective manner from the reddest state in the country, that would garner a lot of attention."

In an e-mail Wednesday to about 10 activist leaders, the maverick mayor of Utah's capital called for a diverse demonstration to greet Bush when he speaks to the Veterans of Foreign Wars at the Salt Palace Convention Center. The mayor plans to join the protesters.

"There should be a collaboration of health-care-provision advocates, seniors, the [gay, lesbian and bisexual and transsexual] community, anti-Patriot Act advocates and other civil libertarians, anti-war folks, pro-Social Security advocates, environmental advocates, anti-nuclear-testing advocates, and anti-nuclear-waste-shipment-and-storage advocates," the mayor wrote in the e-mail.

The mayor's message drew a howl of outrage from Mike Parkin, senior vice commander of Veterans of Foreign Wars Atomic Post 4355 in Salt Lake City.

"Excuse my French, but - that son of a bitch!" he said. "It makes the mayor look very, very unpatriotic. It makes him look despicable."

Parkin said such demonstrations, particularly against the Iraq war, give comfort to America's enemies and will be particularly offensive to the 13,000 to 14,000 veterans gathering at the convention.

"I voted for the son of a bitch and I'll never vote for him again," said the Vietnam War veteran.

Anderson disagrees with that measure of patriotism.

"Patriotism," the mayor said, "demands that people speak out when we see our government officials acting in such anti-democratic and deceitful ways to the people of our country."

He also said: "I don't understand people simply blindly going along with the sort of deceit and utter cruelty of this administration. It's not just we have the right to speak out, but we have the obligation to speak out when we see misconduct on the part of the government. The most patriotic thing we can do is stand up against the misuse of governmental power."

Craig Axford, co-chairman of the Utah Democratic Progressive Caucus, said Anderson's encouragement of demonstrations is appropriate.

"I don't think there's anything untoward or radical about that," said Axford, an organizer of a peace rally planned for Pioneer Park, three blocks from the convention center. "For people who appreciate the mayor and appreciate his politics, obviously it will boost our event."

But Joe Cannon, chairman of the Utah Republican Party, said Anderson's encouragement of protests against the president was improper, though typical of the mayor.

"What do you expect? It's Rocky. Clearly it's intended to smack the president. As the mayor of the host city, it's at best untoward."

Cannon thinks the e-mail will only help the Utah Republican Party.

"It's not the worst thing that can happen to remind the people of Utah the kind of things Democrats nationally stand for."

Salt Lake City Councilman Dave Buhler, a Republican, also said the mayor's action was in poor taste.

"I'm disappointed he would do this and use his office to promote his political views, which do not involve the city directly."

Other city officials can do little, Buhler said, except "apologize for him again, as we are getting pretty good at doing."

Anderson, who is scheduled to make welcoming remarks to the conventioneers, says veterans will understand. "The veterans of foreign wars are heroes in my view. To stand up against government misconduct is in no way expressing a lack of support for those who defend our country."

Even though Utah gave Bush his largest margin of victory of any state in the 2000 and 2004 elections, Anderson, a Democrat, wrote in this e-mail: "Don't let him come to Utah and not see huge opposition, even in the reddest state! This would send such an important message."

"A tepid response will just send a message of apathy and resignation. Let the Bush administration - and the world - hear from Salt Lake City!"

Meanwhile, peace activists already were gearing up for the president's visit. Erin Davis, a veteran who opposes the war in Iraq, predicted at least 1,000 anti-war activists would begin gathering in Pioneer Park early Monday. The demonstration will be joined by a national group of military families who oppose the war.

Anderson plans to participate at Pioneer Park demonstration against the war and is scheduled to speak.

Axford described the rally at Pioneer Park, from 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m., as a "pro-peace rally." It isn't being held near the Salt Palace, where the president will speak, because organizers didn't want to make the convention attendees feel unwelcome, the mayor said.

"We didn't want to invite any kind of confrontation. We wanted to focus on our positive message."

That message, Axford says, is: "We'd just like [the president] to explain and justify this war in light of the fact so much of what we were told we were fighting for clearly we weren't fighting for."

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Reporter Heather May contributed to this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: mayor; rockyanderson; saltlakecity; tolerantleft; vfw
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To: digitalbrownshirt

http://www.nwherald.com/MainSection/local/289971903520728.php

FYI


21 posted on 08/20/2005 7:57:54 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: battlegearboat
FYI

http://www.nwherald.com/MainSection/local/289971903520728.php

22 posted on 08/20/2005 7:58:22 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Anderson, who is scheduled to make welcoming remarks to the conventioneers...

Oh, Lord. THERE'S a CSpan moment I don't wanna miss!

23 posted on 08/20/2005 8:01:29 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: billnaz

I'm not sure why Rocky prospered in Salt Lake, which is supposedly so conservative. Pioneer Park is a total dump. Drugs and prostitution are everywhere. It's Salt Lake's red light district.


24 posted on 08/20/2005 8:01:57 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: dts32041

Thanks. I think it speaks more for Illinois vets than for all vets though. My dad is a Utah VFW member. He'd kick Durbin's ass if he got the chance.


25 posted on 08/20/2005 8:02:06 AM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"ADRIAN!"


26 posted on 08/20/2005 8:02:55 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
To stand up against government misconduct is in no way expressing a lack of support for those who defend our country."

Government misconduct would be lining up this piece of garbage againt a wall and shooting him.

One day, real soon, it may come to that.

Then the enemy within will have something to bitch about.

27 posted on 08/20/2005 8:04:14 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Parkin said such demonstrations, particularly against the Iraq war, give comfort to America's enemies and will be particularly offensive to the 13,000 to 14,000 veterans gathering at the convention.
I suggest they open the convention center doors when all hands are present, face the vets towards the protesters and then charge the SOBs!
28 posted on 08/20/2005 8:04:21 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Am I the only one, or is anyone else seeing a pattern starting to form here? An antiwar plan that started with cindy sheehan? Now the supposedly trickling of joiners?

Am I the only one who feels they are watching a pre-scripted dance of the libs?


29 posted on 08/20/2005 8:06:43 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Baseball Apple Pie And Mom")
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To: digitalbrownshirt
I think not, I think this is where the national organization is at.
30 posted on 08/20/2005 8:06:48 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: oh8eleven
Won't happen the VFW is a member of the rat coalition now.

More money for me please

31 posted on 08/20/2005 8:08:39 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: martin_fierro

Rocky? Is this part of the leftist pretense that they are somehow tough guys?


32 posted on 08/20/2005 8:10:43 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"It's not the worst thing that can happen to remind the people of Utah the kind of things Democrats nationally stand for."

The dems' anti-war, anti-American "sword" cuts both ways.


33 posted on 08/20/2005 8:36:06 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"There should be a collaboration of health-care-provision advocates, seniors, the [gay, lesbian and bisexual and transsexual] community, anti-Patriot Act advocates and other civil libertarians, anti-war folks, pro-Social Security advocates, environmental advocates, anti-nuclear-testing advocates, and anti-nuclear-waste-shipment-and-storage advocates," the mayor wrote in the e-mail.

In other words, roll out the freakshow. It sounds like it's going to be Gay Pride Day, Senior Bingo Night, and smelly enrirowhackos all rolled into one. Yeah.

34 posted on 08/20/2005 8:43:32 AM PDT by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Let SLC learn the same lesson learned by Columbus, Ohio when the NRA said "seeeee ya."


35 posted on 08/20/2005 8:44:41 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"Patriotism," the mayor said, "demands that people speak out when we see our government officials acting in such anti-democratic and deceitful ways to the people of our country."

Another of the left's favorite lies.
36 posted on 08/20/2005 8:44:50 AM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Wake up SLC, who you elect counts, SEEEEEEEE, LMAO


37 posted on 08/20/2005 8:58:35 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Maybe Mr. Bush should say what Mike Parkin said, "that son of a bitch!!"...I'll bet ol' Rocky would run for the hills if Bush unloaded on him. I kinda wish he would fight back a little better and let some of the DemoLibs have it between the eyes.


38 posted on 08/20/2005 8:59:37 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Jaysun
Considering how the liberals dealt with Bill Clinton's lies, which they fully acknowledged, they're hypocrites for being upset at Bush, even if it were proven that he lied about everything.

During the Krinton years, it was: "Yeah, he lied. So what? Everybody lies. It's what the big boys do to compete. It's okay to lie, cheat, and steal because everybody's doing it." And they subscribed to the unwritten mantra that it's okay to lie if it furthers liberal agendas. They asked for zero justification or explanation as to why U.S. forces bombed the Balkans for 73 days straight.

During the Bush years, it's: "Bush lied!!" while offering zero proof or any solutions as to how they would have done things differently. They require airtight, above-courtroom-level proof for GW and Congress to do anything. They claim that they support the troops while dumping on everything they do and constantly chant that the troops are poorly trained, unprofessional, and sadistic. Deposing a leader that has put, at current count, 600,000 of his citizens into mass graves, nerve-gassed 40,000 Kurds, and started a war with Iran that had over 1 million casualties due to chemical weapons is unethical and violates international law.

39 posted on 08/20/2005 9:12:07 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
They're obviously opportunist and they've always been irrational. I suspect that they took up the "Bush lied" mantra because they know that honesty is important to us and they hoped to sway some support away from him. Like I said, they're irrational.
40 posted on 08/20/2005 9:23:34 AM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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