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Syracuse Post-Standard | 8-19-2005 | letter to the editor

Posted on 08/19/2005 1:36:57 PM PDT by LetsHearIt

To the editor:

One would think that the president of the United States holds the most stressful job ever. Isn't it wonderful that our pompous president is in such excellent condition healthwise? And why not? His eligible daughters aren't in Iraq protecting our country like so many others, more than 1,800 who have given their lives for a war that he started.

With a smirk on his face, he says, "We will stay the course." Who is "we?" Not him or his family. Heck no. He's on a month's vacation. If he's so gung-ho about this war, show us some guts and send your kids to the front lines. This war is not being won; the insurgents just keep on coming. And terrorism has gotten much worse since he began this senseless war.

Then, too, he has no worry about health insurance. Boy, is he covered, not like the millions who have none. And what about the poor, the homeless and those who barely eke out a living? It's not his problem. Why worry? Go on vacation. Imagine a month's vacation. No wonder he's in such good condition. And while he's gone, who's minding the store? The other pompous snake?

I would think that if Dubya likes Texas so much, he should stay there and let one who has the total concern of our nation and its people take his place. In history, I believe this president will be judged the worst ever.


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To: LetsHearIt

This is ad-hominem filled liberal garbage.


161 posted on 08/19/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Why? Ask Jamie Gorelick)
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To: LetsHearIt
...instead of just dismissing it as ad-hominem filled liberal garbage.

But it IS ad-hominem-filled liberal garbage.

162 posted on 08/19/2005 4:45:44 PM PDT by Petronski (I stick to Rovian talking points: "I love Cyborg!")
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To: LetsHearIt

Glad you left @sshole.....stay gone. Stay up in the northland where you can live off of the taxpayers rather than work to support yourself....liberal POS.


163 posted on 08/19/2005 4:47:30 PM PDT by michaelbfree
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To: LetsHearIt
Just a pitiful cry for attention.

Pathetic.
164 posted on 08/19/2005 4:49:19 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: LetsHearIt

165 posted on 08/19/2005 5:00:45 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: LetsHearIt
I know I'm going to get banned within 2 minutes of posting this

I'd say none to soon moron

166 posted on 08/19/2005 5:06:20 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973)
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To: DTogo

Awesome. Is that a 203mm?


167 posted on 08/19/2005 5:07:21 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: LetsHearIt
I'd actually like to see you freepers dispute the points in a post like this for once, instead of just dismissing it as ad-hominem filled liberal garbage.

Your "points" are so patently absurd and delusional, they are not worth my time and efforts.

I'm sure you disagree with that. Good. Please, please, please keep using your twisted, hateful "logic" as you make your case to the American people, coast-to-coast.

*You will find little to no agreement or support outside of your cozy, elite liberal circles.
*You will continue to accelerate the demise of the democrat party, which liberals have occupied, as in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Today, Republicans have elected majorities in the US Senate, US Congress, Governorships, State Senates, and State Houses. We have won the White House 5 of the last 7 elections and 7 of the last 10 elections. Yes, all of your elitist talk sounds so "dispute proof" when you sit around in your elite surroundings in NYC or Boston or DC or SF or LA, but when you get out into the real world, into the heart of America, you are all dismissed as being shrill sounding, with negative attitudes, and bankrupt of ideas. Not to mention anti-American, anti-military, anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-capitalist, anti-business...well, just about anti-everything except; pro-abortion, pro-taxes, pro-socialism...well, you know what you and your team really believe.

I would relish debating liberals in the market place of ideas...except you can't come up with the table stakes.

Good bye...and good riddance.

168 posted on 08/19/2005 5:07:35 PM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: 50sDad

Bravo! Please rate-my-rant on post #168...


169 posted on 08/19/2005 5:12:34 PM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: LetsHearIt
I'd actually like to see you freepers dispute the points in a post like this for once, instead of just dismissing it as ad-hominem filled liberal garbage.


Dispute what points? None were made. The writter simply rattled off the left's talking points without making a case for any of them.

Provide some proof of your points, and then they will be disputed. Making claims is not the same as making a valid argument.

As is, all you deserve is be laughed at.

170 posted on 08/19/2005 5:43:40 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: LetsHearIt; flashbunny
"Now go remove your head from your butt and move to canada. " -flashbunny

"I already did. I got away from this stinkhole." -LetsHearIt


I'd like to hear how he got away from his own butt.

171 posted on 08/19/2005 7:19:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (This tagline has gone berserk! Run for your lives! _______\o/_______ Aiiiiie it's got me!)
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To: LetsHearIt

Here ya go:

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: John in San Diego, you're next. Welcome to the program. Nice to have you with us.

CALLER: Thank you for taking my call.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: I believe that Cindy Sheehan is bringing up one important point, though.

RUSH: What's that?

CALLER: If this is a valiant and noble cause, why don't we have [sic] any senators sons or House of Representatives sons volunteering to go over there? Why isn't the president's daughters doing something for the war effort, if this is such a valiant effort? And that's the primary purpose that she has made this protest for, is the fact that the average person is being used as cannon fodder basically for this effort, and it's not a noble cause.

RUSH: John, you disappoint me, but you don't surprise me. No war is noble as far as you all are concerned. The US is guilty. This argument is tiresome, boring, and specious. Why didn't the president's daughters go? It's a volunteer force! The president didn't "send" Cindy Sheehan's son over there; he volunteered. If she is doing anything, she is sullying his memory. She is making his life worthless. She is making what he volunteered to do worthless, and you guys, you don't see this. There are sons, there are family members of elected officials in Washington who have been and are in Iraq. It's not a great number, but they are there. But it's not a draft, and the president can't choose who goes. It's a volunteer army and everything that you said is doing a disservice to those who have volunteered to represent this country and serve this country and their families, and if I were you, I would be ashamed and try to grow up and get a little maturity.

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RUSH: My friends, there's another reason why the Sheehan thing is going to derail, why this train is going to derail, and that's because look at who her public relations outfit is. It's the mainstream press. They don't have universal respect anymore. They don't even have any concept of how they are harming her cause by championing it, but I want to talk about something larger here with you liberals. I know there are a lot of you here in the audience. We hear from you now and then, and it may be a waste of my time but I'm going to try it anyway. But I think you all need to look at things differently than you do. You need to take your focus off of government. You know how absurd it is for us to hear that a war is ignoble because the president's kids aren't there or because congressmen's kids aren't there? Do you know how irrelevant that is? Do you know who makes this country work? Can I ask you people on the left if you have the slightest idea who makes this country work? Because I'll tell you, it's not the president, I don't care who he is, and it's not Congress, and I don't care who they are. The people who make this country work are the people, and they're people you've never heard of. They are people unlike Cindy Sheehan, who are not seeking publicity, they are not seeking fame. They take life seriously. They try to mix their work and pleasure into a proper balance. They try to raise their kids the right way. They're doing everything they can to follow the straight-and-narrow. They sometimes slip off, but the people who make this country work, the fabled average American. That's who you liberals condemn, whether you know it or not. That's who you impugn. It's always been the case.

World War II was not won by Eisenhower. World War II was not won by FDR. World War II was not won by any particular leader. World War II was not won by Patton. Everybody played a role. But without the sons and daughters of the American people, this country wouldn't amount to anything. It is the people who make this country work, and the ease with which those of you on the left disparage the people in this country while you seek to focus all attention on government, is a sight to behold, and it is why you are losing elections; it is why you are losing favor; it is why you are becoming more fringe and extreme and kooky, because you've lost touch. You've lost contact. You've lost all ability to understand who it is that comprises the heart and soul of this country. You have no clue who the backbone of this country is; but I will tell you this: it's not Cindy Sheehan and it's not one member of her entourage in a ditch in Crawford, Texas. Those people are a bunch of squatters. Those people right now are contributing nothing to the greatness or future of this country. Neither are the members of the media who are down there trying to elevate all those people in the ditch to be superheroes. There's not one of them that comes anywhere near rating the title of hero. They are nothing but a bunch of squatters who are miserable and unhappy for who knows whatever reasons and deciding to take it out on people who they think have control over their lives. In this case, with a bunch of liberals, it's government. You want government to have control over your life, you want government to be able to do this and that for your friends and neighbors and help you, but the simple truth of this country is that it's the people who make this country work. It is the people who comprise the economy.

It is the people who comprise the morality. It is the people of this country who determine the ethics. It is the people of this country, and that's what you're upset about because you're in the minority. The people of this country, the people who make this country work differ from you in tremendous ways. They are religious. They are God-fearing. They respect values and morality. They know what's right and they know what's wrong, and they do their best to abide. You are offended by all that, claiming they don't have the right to make such decisions, while you sit around and make no decisions whatsoever because you're willing to totally put your life in the hands of some liberal politician and that will take you off the hook for having to make any decision about your life or anybody else's. Well, that's not how the country works. This country works on the basis of an educated and informed public seeking excellence in their own lives to whatever degree they wish it. People pursuing life the best they can, using freedom, God-given freedom -- and for you to call here and to come up with something as irrelevant as to say this war is not worth it because the president's kids aren't there or because nobody from Washington's kids are there doesn't say a thing about the war effort, doesn't say one thing about it, doesn't make it noble, doesn't make it ignoble, doesn't make it anything, because the war is taking place. Whether you agree with the fact that it's going on or not, we all have come to the decision that it's best that we win it. You haven't even joined us on that. You hope we lose it. You want to lose it because you want to embarrass the leaders of the country. What must your lives be like?

Are your lives so endless, baseless, and void of substance that the only pleasure you get from life is through watching the misery of others and trying to cause misery for others? Are you so incapable of enjoying the God-given gift of life that you've got, that you can only do so when other people are suffering, hopefully as a result of actions you've taken? What must it be like to be you people? What must it be like to get up every day and to have to go to your calendar and write "Destroy somebody today. Destroy something today. Destroy America today"? What must that be like? When you look out across the country and you see a burgeoning economy, you see the lone world superpower -- and it's not because of any president, and it's not because of any weapon, and it's not because of any military, it's because of the people of this country and our values and our Constitution. We're no different than any other people, other than we have freedom -- and you don't even like that! You only want freedom for yourselves, defined as you define it. So people can't say things that offend you, they can't do things that offend you, we can't have stupid names for sports teams. The absurdity of this whole political correctness movement. We can't have some team called the Redskins, we can't have some team called the Seminoles. Don't you understand these team names do it, it's an honor? Do you think a school calls itself the Seminoles to make fun of the Seminoles or are they trying to build themselves up? It's a matter of pride. But you people are so miserably unhappy that you have to find ways to constantly make everybody else around you unhappy, and so you go hang around with a woman who's crazed out of her mind in a ditch in Crawford, Texas, and then you have the audacity to call here and tell us that you are the great ones, that you're the ones that care, that you're the ones that have this country's best interests at heart.

If it were up to you people we wouldn't exist as a country today, you would have given in to the Soviets long ago, you would have appeased the Soviet communists. You would appease Iran right now, you probably wouldn't have cared about the war on terror or the bombing on 9/11. You would have sought out bin Laden and tried to make a deal with him, and this country exists today only because we have been able to prevent you from gaining power to do that kind of thing. We've had our run-ins with Neville Chamberlain types and you're the modern incarnation. To sit here, to actually have the gall to call this program and advance something you think as an intellectual argument that Cindy Sheehan's cause is noble, because the president's daughters aren't in Iraq, or congressmen's sons and daughters aren't in Iraq, have you no shame? Do you realize whose sons and daughters are? Do you understand it's voluntary? Do you understand these are people who are offering their lives in sacrifice for things they believe in? And what do you do? You come along and you try to disabuse them of their belief by telling them that they're wrong and that their country sucks. Well, to the extent that they think their country sucks it's because of you and your efforts to constantly undermine this country's best interests and our desires and efforts to protect the people of this country and to bring freedom to as many others in this world as possible. You people on the left used to be the ones that were all for civil rights around the world. You were all for human rights. Now all of a sudden you couldn't care less about the status of Iraqis. You couldn't care less. It's gotten so absurd, now that Howard Dean said on TV that if this new constitution is enacted as written, that the women of Iraq are going to be worse off than they were under Saddam Hussein.

Do you realize how patently absurd and bordering on insane that comment is? No, you don't. Because you think so little of your own country, you think so little of this president, you have such little faith in the ideals that have combined to make this a great country, that you assume it's worse here than anywhere else, and the places that it is bad is because of us, either through environmental pollution, or whatever cockamamie, asinine, stupid, ignoramus idea you can come up with. It's gotten to the point now where it is common to go on Democrat websites and read about the pleasure it would bring if the president were assassinated. It is now common to read letters to the editors in newspapers which say it would be fun if bin Laden actually came over here and slit Bush's throat, which is what a supporter of Sheehan wrote to a letter of the editor in one of the newspapers in this country. Yes, it would have been better if bin Laden would have just come here and slit Bush's throat. Do you have any idea how you people are perceived? Do you have the slightest idea how the decent people who make this country work perceive you? It is not with any respect. It is with contempt and it's with sorrow. But it's also with this realization: This country, if it is to survive, cannot be turned over to you people to lead and to run, because we will cease to exist as the United States the day that happens, and mark my word. It ain't going to happen.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I have a story here from the San Diego Union Tribune on September 13th, 2004. "On a visit to Iraq in June, Rep. Duncan Hunter [R-CA] gave a short speech to Marines in a Fallujah mess hall and told them how important they were in the war on terrorism. One Marine in the audience found the congressman's talk so inspiring that he wrote about it in an e-mail to his mother. He said it lifted everyone's spirits and 'erased all doubts I had about being here.' 'I got chills and thought about how proud I am to be fighting for America in my capacity,' he wrote. The Marine who sent that note was 1st Lt. Duncan Duane Hunter, Hunter's oldest son and one of a handful of troops in Iraq whose father or mother is a member of Congress." He's got one son that's there on his second tour. But it's absurd, folks, on the face of it. It is absurd to say that this is somehow a definition of whether something noble or not, whether something's got any integrity or not. It ignores the role we all play as a people together in whatever national cause we undertake, and I wouldn't expect too many people on the left to understand that. Paul in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, welcome, nice to have you on the program.

CALLER: Thank you, sir, I appreciate it. Yeah, I just wanted to say, especially after that one caller, I mean I didn't volunteer because the president's daughters were doing something or some senator's son was joining or anything like that, and I didn't join because I was coming from the ghetto and I wanted to get out. You know, I joined because it was a career choice, and I wanted to do it, and I really feel that if her son was here today -- and I understand her grief. I mean, I'm a father as well, but I served in Iraq. I've served in Afghanistan. I've been over there many times, and, you know, I've had friends lost right next to me in battle, and I can understand the grief, but, you know what? At the same time they're doing what they wanted to do. So many of these people are stuck back in the Vietnam days, and the days of the draft, that I used to get e-mail saying, "Boy, I'm sorry that you're over there." I would e-mail back and say, "What do you mean, you're sorry? I put myself here on purpose. This is what I want to do."

RUSH: It's no more complicated than the fact that the people who are engaged in all this simply don't like this country, and they haven't liked it since the sixties. They haven't liked it their whole lives. Thankfully there aren't that many of them. There are only a hundred people down there with her, but she's gone beyond grief, this is not about grief for her, this is not a woman grieving, this is a woman reveling this attention, this is a woman soaking it all up. This is a woman thinking she matters. Which we all want to do. Everybody wants to matter. Everybody wants their life to have meaning. Unfortunately, hers has taken on this direction that the meaning she thinks she's deriving is actually empty. There's no meaning to what she's doing. She's a pawn, she's a tool of a bunch of fellow crackpots upon whom we couldn't depend if our lives were at stake, and that's why they are so few and far between. Thankfully, they are not anywhere near the majority of people in the country.

END TRANSCRIPT


I rest my case!


172 posted on 08/19/2005 7:26:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: LetsHearIt
I'm not letting go 'til you promise not to come back out
from under the rock where you belong.


173 posted on 08/19/2005 7:30:51 PM PDT by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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To: LetsHearIt
Sorry you lack health insurance. You can usually get a health plan with a job. Vacations are a benefit too. I know everyone in Foggy Bottom is on vacation now, I suppose President Bush could just hang out there waiting for congress to return to work.....

What the Bush daughters do with their lives is their business just as what you do with your life is yours.

Your post is vacuous but I did enjoy your home page.

174 posted on 08/19/2005 7:45:41 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: NewLand; 50sDad

Great rants by the both of you (148 and 168). Between you guys and Rush's rant, I could write a book.


175 posted on 08/19/2005 8:07:45 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The modern Democratic Party: Attacking our defenders and defending our attackers.)
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To: LetsHearIt

What points did you make?


176 posted on 08/19/2005 8:11:57 PM PDT by sport
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To: LetsHearIt

"I believe this president will be judged the worst ever."

By degenerates such as yourself and the main stream media he probably will.

The reason you and the main stream media worship Bill Clinton is he is just as perverted and degenerate as you are.


177 posted on 08/19/2005 8:15:34 PM PDT by sport
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To: txroadhawg

At Last!! Im in after the Zot...Yipppeeeeee!!!!!


178 posted on 08/19/2005 8:20:17 PM PDT by woofie
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To: sionnsar

OMG! That is the BEST!

Awesome!

179 posted on 08/19/2005 8:26:59 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: LetsHearIt
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180 posted on 08/19/2005 11:11:23 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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