Mexican footprints cause scientific stir

MANBC ^ | 2:01 p.m. ET July 5, 2005 | AP

[gnarledmaw]

AP LONDON - British scientists claimed on Tuesday to have unearthed 40,000-year-old human footprints in central Mexico, challenging previous studies that put the arrival of the first humans in the Americas at about 13,500 years ago.

Scientists Silvia Gonzalez, from Liverpool John Moores University, and Matthew Bennett, of Bournemouth University, found the footprints in an abandoned quarry close to the Cerro Toluquilla volcano in the Valsequillo Basin...

Continued at MSNBC

[AmericanVictory]

From the shoe style?

[SunkenCiv]

Footsteps in time that add 30,000 years to history of America
Times Online UK | 7/4/05 | Lewis Smith
Posted on 07/04/2005 9:59:36 PM PDT by freedom44
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1436650/posts

Mexico offers up ancient footprints (40,000 year old footprints)
Guardian (U.K.) | Tuesday July 5, 2005 | Maev Kennedy
Posted on 07/04/2005 11:15:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1436677/posts

40,000-year-old footprint of first Americans
The Telegraph (U.K.) | 5-07-2005 | Roger Highfield
Posted on 07/05/2005 3:38:09 AM PDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1436721/posts

[HawaiianGecko]

	The 50,000-year-old americans of pedra furada Archeologists have established to the satisfaction of most that humans were present in Brazil at least 50,000 years ago. F. Parenti, with N. Guidon, presented their data at a recent Paris meeting. The main site studied was the sandstone rock shelter of Pedra Furada, which is one of several hundred painted rock shelters discovered in northeastern Brazil. Guidon began her work in 1978; Parenti, in 1984. The fourvolume, 7-kilogram report (actually Parenti's doctoral thesis) concentrates on three lines of evidence: A coherent series of 54 radiocarbon dates ranging from 5,000 to 50,000 years.   Crudely flaked stones, some 6,000 of which are deemed of human manufacture, even when the most stringent criteria are applied. Many of these came from Pleistocene strata 50,000 years old or older.   Some 50 Pleistocene "structures" consisting of artificial arrangements of stones, some burned, some accompanied by charcoal. These are likely ancient hearths.   (Bahn, Paul G.; "50,000-Year-Old Americans of Pedra Furada," Nature, 362:114, 1993.) Comment. With the Brazil and Chile (Monte Verde) sites looking more and more convincing, it is reasonable to ask why even older sites have not been found in North America, which is nearer the famous Bering Land Bridge. As a matter of fact, controverted human artifacts have been found at such sites as Calico Hills, California, which are claimed to be much older than 50,000 years. It will be interesting to see how the Pedra Furada data are received in the States. This really blows away the Clovis-First theory that has been the dominate belief since 1933.

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The 50,000-year-old americans of pedra furada

Archeologists have established to the satisfaction of most that humans were present in Brazil at least 50,000 years ago. F. Parenti, with N. Guidon, presented their data at a recent Paris meeting. The main site studied was the sandstone rock shelter of Pedra Furada, which is one of several hundred painted rock shelters discovered in northeastern Brazil. Guidon began her work in 1978; Parenti, in 1984. The fourvolume, 7-kilogram report (actually Parenti's doctoral thesis) concentrates on three lines of evidence:

• A coherent series of 54 radiocarbon dates ranging from 5,000 to 50,000 years.

   

• Crudely flaked stones, some 6,000 of which are deemed of human manufacture, even when the most stringent criteria are applied. Many of these came from Pleistocene strata 50,000 years old or older.

   

• Some 50 Pleistocene "structures" consisting of artificial arrangements of stones, some burned, some accompanied by charcoal. These are likely ancient hearths.

   

(Bahn, Paul G.; "50,000-Year-Old Americans of Pedra Furada," Nature, 362:114, 1993.)

Comment. With the Brazil and Chile (Monte Verde) sites looking more and more convincing, it is reasonable to ask why even older sites have not been found in North America, which is nearer the famous Bering Land Bridge. As a matter of fact, controverted human artifacts have been found at such sites as Calico Hills, California, which are claimed to be much older than 50,000 years. It will be interesting to see how the Pedra Furada data are received in the States.

This really blows away the Clovis-First theory that has been the dominate belief since 1933.

[benjaminjjones]

How do they know the human was 40,000 years old at the time he left the footprints?

I'll bet it was this guy.

[Old Grumpy]

"I bet all the footprints were HEADED NORTH!!!"

I was going to say the EXACT same thing!

[taxesareforever]

put the arrival of the first humans in the Americas at about 13,500 years ago

The Indians are going to be unhappy about this. Sounds like Mexicans were the first in the U.S. Burn all those Indian treaties, they aren't any good.

[xcamel]

My theory continues to be proved true...Beringa is Bull*

[goodnesswins]

ROFL......

[xJones]

Okay, boys and girls, nobody is being series about the evidence:

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This ..... whatever was left in volcanic ash as someone was probably yelling "Hot! Hot! Hot!". But,,,,,does that look like a human footprint?

[wildbill]

ROFLMAO!

[Sterco]

The footprints were right on the heels of Coyote tracks.

[joesnuffy]

It just smells that old...

[TheCrusader]

Did they use carbon dating for "prove" the age of these footprints? If so, I believe that a great many capable scientists have debunked the accuracy and consistency of these methods, (radioisotopes), especially when it involves volcanic material.

The MSM, public schools' and liberal universties' suppression of the voices of conservative scientists shouldn't exactly be surprising though. They suppress and bash everything else linked to conservatives and conservatism.

Since the various methods of dating do not consistently agree, it can't really be called a precise "science". There is probably a greater liklihood that these footprints belong to Whitey Bulger than to a man who lived 40,000 years ago.

[Red Badger]

How do they know they were Mexicans? The could have been from Honduras!.........

[gnarledmaw]

26,000-year-old arch supports?

[Vicomte13]

"The Indians are going to be unhappy about this. Sounds like Mexicans were the first in the U.S. Burn all those Indian treaties, they aren't any good."

Mexicans ARE Indians, paleface.

[mercy]

This will be rejected and ignored. Scientists are absolutely 'religious' about established theory. Some guy wrote a book about many many findings in archeology and paleontology that seem to shatter popular and long established theories. Can't remember title or author but heard him interviewed once. You would not believe the stuff that has been found and ignored ... absolutely made to disappear.

If the folks mentioned in this article don't shut up right away they will be discredited .... fired from their university jobs and no scientific journal will publish them.

[Question_Assumptions]

Lawrence Keeley's War Before Civilization provides a lot of good examples of anthropologists ignoring the evidence or spinning it to make it fit their preconceived notions.

[Conan the Librarian]

Wouldn't that Caliente?

[taxesareforever]

Mexicans ARE Indians, paleface. Prove it Mexicani http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-05,GGLD:en&oi=defmore&q=define:indian